Unpopular Music Opinions

Molecules · 10-22-2009, 01:46 PM

oh come on arent we all a bit old for Nirvana bashing? they were good

storymilo · 10-22-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ebony_and_Irony

Here's all the indie I've listened to thus far: Animal Collective, Radiohead, R.E.M., Iron and Wine, Modest Mouse, Blur, The Mars Volta, Elliott Smith, Slint, The Flaming Lips, Mew, Arcade Fire, The Magnetic Fields, Beck, Neutral Milk Hotel, Of Montreal, Sufjan Stevens, The Vines, The White Stripes, The New Pornographers, Wilco, Wolfmother, The Killers, Kings of Leon, Deerhoof, Dinosaur Jr., Coldplay, Interpol, Nine Inch Nails, Pixies, Built to Spill, Spoon, Pavement, The Smiths, Sigur Ros, Manic Street Preachers, Ben Fold Five, Fugazi, Godspeed! You Black Emperor, Phoenix, Sonic Youth, Arctic Monkeys, Franz Ferdinand, Joy Division, and Jimmy Eat World.

Most of these bands are but overrated imo.
Also alot of classic rock is overrated too.

What do you like?

Also what do you find overrated about them. I'd just like to know cause a lot of those are bands that many people love

Molecules · 10-22-2009, 01:48 PM

what i find hilarious about that list is that you are lumping a huge number of disparate bands together under this indie banner... Wolfmother and Blur?

Ebony_and_Irony · 10-22-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by storymilo

What do you like?

Also what do you find overrated about them. I'd just like to know cause a lot of those are bands that many people love

I like almost all those indie bands listed above, particularly Radiohead, NIN, Elliott Smith, Pixies and Beck, in fact i don't think find these 5 overrated. Like I said I think MOST of those bands I listed are overrated, I feel that most indie bands are over hyped and get too much credit they don't deserve. Simple as that.

Ebony_and_Irony · 10-22-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Molecules

oh come on arent we all a bit old for Nirvana bashing? they were good

I wasn't bashing Nirvana, I find them good but pixies own them imo.

storymilo · 10-22-2009, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Molecules

what i find hilarious about that list is that you are lumping a huge number of disparate bands together under this indie banner... Wolfmother and Blur?

Heh yeah I though that too. Wolfmother are definitely NOT indie

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Originally Posted by Ebony_and_Irony

I like almost all those indie bands listed above, particularly Radiohead, NIN, Elliott Smith, Pixies and Beck, in fact i don't think find these 5 overrated. Like I said I think MOST of those bands I listed are overrated, I feel that most indie bands are over hyped and get too much credit they don't deserve. Simple as that.

R.E.M., Pavement, and The Flaming Lips are overrated but Radiohead isn't?

Mojo · 10-22-2009, 02:06 PM

Why are you comparing Pixies and Nirvana?

Why do most indie bands not deserve credit?

Who said Rush was the best prog band?

Why are you comparing Tim Buckley to Jeff Buckley? They were worlds apart musically and even Jeff Buckley was desperate to avoid being compared to his father.

How do you define classic rock? Isnt saying that most classic rock is over-rated really just saying that most rock bands pre 1980's or even 1990's are over-rated?

How is post rock indies take on prog?

I understand this thread is all about opinions but im sorry, at least at present your list kind of just seems pointless and makes me want to make one so i can take two random bands and let everyone know which one i prefer.

Ebony_and_Irony · 10-22-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by storymilo

Heh yeah I though that too. Wolfmother are definitely NOT indie

Sorry bout some of the inconsistencies, I always thought they were.

R.E.M., Pavement, and The Flaming Lips are overrated but Radiohead isn't?

Not in my opinion, this is an unpopular opinion thread isn't it?

boo boo · 10-22-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ebony_and_Irony

Here's some of my unpopular opinions:
Charles Mingus>>Sun Ra>John Coltrane>>>> Miles Davis
The Kinks are way better than The Rolling Stones
Tim Buckley>Jeff Buckley
Just about every indie band out there is overrated.(not sure how popular/unpopular this one is)
Frank Zappa OWNS The Beatles in the 60's which wasn't even his best decade(that was the 70's)
Broadway the Hard way is a good album as is Jazz From Hell.
The best guitarist ever was Frank Zappa.
Soul/R&B is a great genre and is better than Rap, Reggae,and Blues combined.
Neither Brahms nor Wagner were the best of the Romantics, Chopin was.
Tom Lehrer is the best popular music had to offer in the 50's.
J.S. Bach is boring, in fact the whole Baroque era had very dull music, with a few exceptions.
Radiohead is a great rock band but they were never that original.
Progressive Rock is the best rock sub genre.
Univers Zero is the best Progressive rock band.
Classical>Jazz
Metal is not very good.(This includes every sub genre)
Contrary to popular opinion Electronic music is indeed emotional.
I don't care what anyone say's Joy Division is Crap.
Ravi Shankar is better than Phillip Glass and a lot of modern composers for that matter.
Yes>Led Zeppelin
The Dead Kennedys>Fear>>The Ramones>>>The Clash
Post rock is indies take on prog except its boring unlike prog.
Neil Young is better than Bob Dylan.
Sparks is Amazing. Better than any other 70's, 80's, or 90's pop band.
Rap is a terrible genre, but not all of it is bad.
Elliott Smith>Nick Drake
John Cage is a crappy composer.
We need more organs, vibraphones and bassoons in music.
Emerson Lake and Palmer are amazing and better than Dream Theater.
Pet Sounds is overrated.
The album Loveless(My Bloody Valentine) should never be loved as the name implies.
Adam Lambert is a terrible singer as far as phrasing goes.
TuPac is not a good poet.
Mr. Bungle>Faith No More.
The Allman Brothers Band>Lynyrd Skynard.
Kind of Blue is boring.
FF6 and 8s soundtrack owns FF7s soundtrack.
Moonlight Sonata is Beethovens Worst work.
Rush is good but nowhere near the best prog rock band.

That's a whole lot of closedmindedness to put in a single post.

Granted I agree with a few things like

The Kinks > Rolling Stones
Mr Bungle > Fait No More
ELP > Dream Theater
Neil Young > Bob Dylan,

But that's about it, most of your comparisons make no sense. What in the hell does Ravi Shankar and Phillip Glass have in common? And why compare Zappa to The Beatles? WHY compare classical to jazz? Is there any good reason you compared R&B to reggae, rap and the blues other than them being dominated by black artists?

And as huge fan of both Yes and Zep, I don't understand the comparison. Other than both of these bands having long hair and being around in the 70s, why are they worthy of a comparison? They have absolutely nothing in common musically.

And it's pretty ignorant to write off so many genres like that, every genre has a lot to offer, you just need to know where to look. Prog is my favorite genre but I don't think it's objectively better than any other, and even I know that not ALL Indie bands are overrated pieces of crap.

Ebony_and_Irony · 10-22-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mojopinuk

Why are you comparing Pixies and Nirvana?

Why do most indie bands not deserve credit?

Who said Rush was the best prog band?

Why are you comparing Tim Buckley to Jeff Buckley? They were worlds apart musically and even Jeff Buckley was desperate to avoid being compared to his father.

How do you define classic rock? Isnt saying that most classic rock is over-rated really just saying that most rock bands pre 1980's or even 1990's are over-rated?

How is post rock indies take on prog?

I understand this thread is all about opinions but im sorry, at least at present your list kind of just seems pointless and makes me want to make one so i can take two random bands and let everyone know which one i prefer.

Pixies started grunge Nirvana got most of the credit, that's why. Both are grunge.

Indie does deserve credit, just not as much as what some indie bands get.

Alot of people do believe Rush is the best prog band. I disagree.

I was comparing both because Jeff is Tim's son, they are related. Who cares if Jeff wanted to avoid being compared to his dad, it was bound to happen.

Idk how to define classic rock. Most people believe that it is rock from the 60's up until the 80's, most bands during that era I believe are overrated.

Post-rock is extremely similar to prog. It generally uses rythyms, harmonies, melodies, timbre, and chord progressions not typical in rock. Also most post rock songs are long and are instrumental. And on top of that almost all post rock bands are indie. Sounds like indies take on prog to me.

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