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Old 07-31-2010, 07:29 AM   #3691 (permalink)
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The Doors are a huge influence on all three, not a minor one by any means.

Iggy takes after the more rowdy side of the doors, JD the more dark and brooding and Danzig somehwere in between.

With JD it isn't as obvious, but with a lot of Danzig and Iggy/Stooges it totally is.
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Old 07-31-2010, 07:32 AM   #3692 (permalink)
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The Doors are a huge influence on all three, not a minor one by any means.

Iggy takes after the more rowdy side of the doors, JD the more dark and brooding and Danzig somehwere in between.
Like I said I only really hear it in the vocals.
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Old 07-31-2010, 07:37 AM   #3693 (permalink)
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Danzig has based his entire vocal style on Morrison, to a goddamn t.

The Stooges/Iggy take a lot after The Doors beyond vocals. Their slower songs are very Doors esque, and their fast songs sound like Doors songs too only sped up and with distorted guitar and crappy musicianship. Heh, no wonder The Stooges are more hip.
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Old 07-31-2010, 07:45 AM   #3694 (permalink)
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Danzig has based his entire vocal style on Morrison, to a goddamn t.
And how exactly does this negate what I just said?

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The Stooges/Iggy take a lot after The Doors beyond vocals. Their slower songs are very Doors esque, and their fast songs sound like Doors songs too only sped up and with distorted guitar and crappy musicianship. Heh, no wonder The Stooges are more hip.
I suppose I can see a bit of the influence in the Stooges music, not so much with Iggy solo though.
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Old 07-31-2010, 07:47 AM   #3695 (permalink)
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Yeah Iggy's solo stuff (which is superior to The Stooges by a damn good deal) is more diverse but I still hear stylistic influences from The Doors in there too.

Danzig's music is mostly based around the cult of his personality, his music is very dominated by the vocals, it's by no means a trivial part of his music.
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Old 07-31-2010, 07:51 AM   #3696 (permalink)
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Maybe in topsy turvy land. 2pac is the only one fritter mentioned that doesn't do it for me.

I'm also puzzled as to how and why a fan of Iggy Pop, Danzig and Joy Division would hate The Doors. That's like being a Beatles hating Oasis fan.



Not as overrated as The Stooges.

Or The Clash actually.


They're not related, you have to consider lyrical content too but as a progger, you could never do that right?

Also, your last comment only shows ignorance to their discogs, maybe not the Stooges so much as the Clash
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Danzig's music is mostly based around the cult of his personality, his music is very dominated by the vocals, it's by no means a trivial part of his music.
What is this sentence even supposed to mean? You kind of sound like you haven't listened to much Danzig.
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Boobs, what the ****? And I'm not a fan of Danzig, I'm a fan of Danzig-Misfits,t here is a difference
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They're not related, you have to consider lyrical content too but as a progger, you could never do that right?

Also, your last comment only shows ignorance to their discogs, maybe not the Stooges so much as the Clash
I didnt even comment on The Clash other than saying they were overrated which they are.

Yeah I'm sure lyrical content is a big factor for you, I just don't get solely praising or discrediting an artist solely for that reason as if it's the only thing that matters.

The Doors did songs about mysticism and f*cking and The Stooges just did songs about f*cking. Why anyone would find them more lyrically interesting is beyond me.

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What is this sentence even supposed to mean? You kind of sound like you haven't listened to much Danzig.
My brother listens to him all the time so I hear him more than I normally would.
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Bear in mind that IDM is a much more generalized classification of music than dubstep, and can loosely be referred to anything that doesn't use a prescribed cliche beat.

I personally hate a lot of the "synthy" bass lines in dubstep ,which is why I don't listen to a lot of it, but I definitely think that there's a lot of room for creativity within the genre that hasn't been explored yet.
hm, true. since dubstep is another relatively new genre in the infinite sea of electronic genres (WTF is up with casio-core, anyways?) maybe it really hasn't defined itself yet. i'll come back to dubstep in about a few years or so. it's like a genre under construction. rock from the fifties doesn't sound like rock today, because the genre built up over the years. maybe dubstep will be truly great when i come back.

and yes, now that I looked through my Amon Tobin CDs and compared it to "Music Has The Right To Children" and held them up into the light next to my copy of Drukqs, i'm starting to think of IDM as a dumping ground for bands that don't quite belong in techno, are too hard and abrasive to be ambient, and isn't hard enough to be any of those industrial styles. And is it just me or does "intelligent Dance" sound a little y'know, pretentious? But I must admit, IDM sure is fun to listen to.

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Dubstep isn't quite developed yet, and IDM is way too broad of a genre.
oh, and Casio-Core makes no sense.
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