Unpopular Music Opinions

Necromancer · 07-26-2011, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Electrophonic Tonic

Well, I still don't think very highly of Clapton. I go by those stories when the Blues Breakers and Fleetwood Mac would play shows together. When they Blues Breakers played, fans yelled "CLAPTON IS GOD!!" and when Fleetwood Mac came up, fans would yell "PETER GREEN IS GREATER THAN GOD!!" Clapton is in the upper tier of classic rock guitarists, but 'God' is a title he's never earned in my eyes.

I've heard Disraeli Gears several times before and always had each member of Cream on the same level in my eyes. But this time just convinced me that Ginger Baker and Jack Bruce were the musical force that drove Cream, and as good of a rhythm section as there ever has been. And both could even go beyond just holding down the rhythm.

This was more of a revelation, than an unpopular opinion now that I look back on it...

You have to hear and see Clapton cover Robert Johnson before you completely understand him as one of the "Great" blues artist. The sequence & timing that is involved covering Johnson's vocals & guitar at the same time can be if not "Hard" at the least. If not, Impossible for most musicians.
Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac also plays using the same basic hand style as Robert Johnson also. And Keith Richards is highly influenced by Johnson as well.
But no one covers his music any better on guitar and vocals than Clapton does. Clapton once stated that "he practiced for a week in preparation for covering just two songs by Johnson".

Neapolitan · 07-26-2011, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Electrophonic Tonic

Well, I still don't think very highly of Clapton. I go by those stories when the Blues Breakers and Fleetwood Mac would play shows together. When they Blues Breakers played, fans yelled "CLAPTON IS GOD!!" and when Fleetwood Mac came up, fans would yell "PETER GREEN IS GREATER THAN GOD!!" Clapton is in the upper tier of classic rock guitarists, but 'God' is a title he's never earned in my eyes.

I've heard Disraeli Gears several times before and always had each member of Cream on the same level in my eyes. But this time just convinced me that Ginger Baker and Jack Bruce were the musical force that drove Cream, and as good of a rhythm section as there ever has been. And both could even go beyond just holding down the rhythm.

This was more of a revelation, than an unpopular opinion now that I look back on it...

I like Clapton and he's critically acclaimed & well noted blues guitar player, but when you think about his technique he fiddles around on the guitar in a pentatonic box and people think it's sheer genius. Clapton's level of playing isn't the same level as other guitar players outside the blues genre.

I've seen bands play in bars and when a guitar player does something as simple a bend a note and the bar goes crazy but if the guitarist does something complicated - no response. Technical ability and what sounds cool aren't always mutually inclusive so the fans reaction doesn't mean much as a gauge for how great he is as a guitar player other than they like him (in this case) when a fan shouted that about Clapton, he could had been on acid and tripping on Clapton's painted guitar when he yelled that - who knows. He was just searching for a superlative to describe his affinity for EC playing - it was only a opinion, not necessarily a dogmatic epithet.

Necromancer · 07-27-2011, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

I like Clapton and he's critically acclaimed & well noted blues guitar player, but when you think about his technique he fiddles around on the guitar in a pentatonic box and people think it's sheer genius. Clapton's level of playing isn't the same level as other guitar players outside the blues genre.

I've seen bands play in bars and when a guitar player does something as simple a bend a note and the bar goes crazy but if the guitarist does something complicated - no response. Technical ability and what sounds cool aren't always mutually inclusive so the fans reaction doesn't mean much as a gauge for how great he is as a guitar player other than they like him (in this case) when a fan shouted that about Clapton, he could had been on acid and tripping on Clapton's painted guitar when he yelled that - who knows. He was just searching for a superlative to describe his affinity for EC playing - it was only a opinion, not necessarily a dogmatic epithet.

I see Clapton more as an artist than looking at him as just a guitar player, and nothing more. The technical complexity of being a lead guitarist as well as a lead vocalist at the same time over shadows just playing guitar any day.

You kinda lost me with all the "psychedelic" (stuff). But for "Reals", he is just a guitar player/artist only. Not God.

Howard the Duck · 07-27-2011, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

I like Clapton and he's critically acclaimed & well noted blues guitar player, but when you think about his technique he fiddles around on the guitar in a pentatonic box and people think it's sheer genius. Clapton's level of playing isn't the same level as other guitar players outside the blues genre.

I've seen bands play in bars and when a guitar player does something as simple a bend a note and the bar goes crazy but if the guitarist does something complicated - no response. Technical ability and what sounds cool aren't always mutually inclusive so the fans reaction doesn't mean much as a gauge for how great he is as a guitar player other than they like him (in this case) when a fan shouted that about Clapton, he could had been on acid and tripping on Clapton's painted guitar when he yelled that - who knows. He was just searching for a superlative to describe his affinity for EC playing - it was only a opinion, not necessarily a dogmatic epithet.

look, if it got "feel", it's great - trust me, it ain't that easy playing a good blues box

Syrith · 07-27-2011, 01:13 AM

Pearl Jam is the greatest American band. MAYBE tied with the Allman Brothers

RVCA · 07-27-2011, 02:23 AM

^ unpopular opinions: you're doing it right

kurt_fan · 07-27-2011, 02:30 AM

Sifar is the best alternative rock band of modern age!!

Howard the Duck · 07-27-2011, 02:36 AM

coupla others:-

The Prodigal Stranger is the best Procol Harum album
Discipline is the best King Crimson album
Michael Jackson can't sing
Rory Gallagher plays better blues-rock than Clapton

Charlemagne · 07-27-2011, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce

coupla others:-

Michael Jackson can't sing

I thought it was becoming generally accepted lately that Michael Jackson couldn't sing.

Syrith · 07-27-2011, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RVCA

^ unpopular opinions: you're doing it right

it's true though man. Pearl Jam is the master

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