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Old 02-19-2010, 10:40 AM   #241 (permalink)
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Mayonaise sends chills down my spine.
Still to this day, and Hummer too. There is magic in those songs.

This thread is seriously derailed...branch off?
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Old 02-19-2010, 11:53 AM   #242 (permalink)
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Ill name 10 albums from 90-91 you match those with albums from 2004-2009 (in no order)

Ænema =?
Blood Sugar = ?
Siamese Dream = ?
Violator = ?
Nevermind = ?
Dookie = ?
Superunknown = ?
Rage Against The Machine = ?
Loveless =?
Badmotorfinger =?
It can't be done.
I'd first need to know what you mean by "match." If you mean albums that have a similar sound, the second list will automatically be inferior because they are unoriginal. If you're talking about impact or legendary status, albums from '04-'09 haven't had time to reach that status or have any measurable effect on upcoming bands. And if you're talking about the quality or the album, well, I could come up with a list but it would be entirely subjective. But I'd put a few albums like Oh, You're so Silent Jens, In Rainbows, Neon Bible, and For Emma, Forever Ago against your list. I also feel like hip-hop is at a peak creatively. Again, all of that is subjective, though, so I really can't answer you.
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Old 02-19-2010, 12:35 PM   #243 (permalink)
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It can't be done.
I'd first need to know what you mean by "match." If you mean albums that have a similar sound, the second list will automatically be inferior because they are unoriginal. If you're talking about impact or legendary status, albums from '04-'09 haven't had time to reach that status or have any measurable effect on upcoming bands. And if you're talking about the quality or the album, well, I could come up with a list but it would be entirely subjective. But I'd put a few albums like Oh, You're so Silent Jens, In Rainbows, Neon Bible, and For Emma, Forever Ago against your list. I also feel like hip-hop is at a peak creatively. Again, all of that is subjective, though, so I really can't answer you.
I get ya..but I remember how I felt when I listened to the records. Have not felt that way since.
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:17 PM   #244 (permalink)
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I remember the day I first listened to it. Like it was yesterday. I can't describe it. It brings me back every time. Amazing. Mayonaise sends chills down my spine.

Finally a place where I can talk about the Pumpkins, with people who were there..and get it. Nice.
I feel exactly the same. Pick your pockets full of sorrow and run away with me tomorrow, right about there. Just genius song writing.

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Old 02-19-2010, 01:35 PM   #245 (permalink)
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Still to this day, and Hummer too. There is magic in those songs.

This thread is seriously derailed...branch off?
Not to keep the derailment going, but if the Smashing Pumpkins is being talked about, I gotta join in. Siamese Dream will always rank as my favorite album of all time. Not because I can't find anything to top it, but because it was THE album that got me into music. The first time I heard those guitar tones...I was hooked on music from then on.

For that reason the Smashing Pumpkins will always be pure gold to me...I find it hard to admit when they put out total crap. And I know that they have.
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I know that they have.
Are, actually. The couple of songs that have come out on the Teargarden project are just so... I dunno. They're not terrible enough to be really dismissive of--they're actually kind of passable--it's just next to things from 1988-1998, they sound so... limp. Like you just want to pat Billy on his giant bald head and say "Aww, there there." It's sort of depressing.

Not that I won't listen to the whole thing as it comes out, or anything else Corgan does. I have a similar relationship to Siamese Dream (first album I ever got, musical awakening, all that), so it's almost like I kind of have to.
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Are, actually. The couple of songs that have come out on the Teargarden project are just so... I dunno. They're not terrible enough to be really dismissive of--they're actually kind of passable--it's just next to things from 1988-1998, they sound so... limp. Like you just want to pat Billy on his giant bald head and say "Aww, there there." It's sort of depressing.

Not that I won't listen to the whole thing as it comes out, or anything else Corgan does. I have a similar relationship to Siamese Dream (first album I ever got, musical awakening, all that), so it's almost like I kind of have to.
My thoughts exactly. He has even admitted, though, that what he is putting out now is not going to be up to par with his mid nineties output. He said back then he would push himself to the point of nervous breakdowns until every song was absolute perfection in his eyes, but now he feels too old and content with life to be putting himself through it.

Kind of disappointing knowing all the new music is going to just be "meh...i guess..."
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I still have hope that he may, at some point, turn around and put out something really surprising/awesome. The man does have a history of writing really great things that never see the light of day*, so it's always possible...

*Eg: the acoustic set at the Metro in 2004 ("Riverview," "The World's Fair," etc). That would've made a fine solo album practically as it stands, but instead he goes all sub-Depeche Mode on TheFutureEmbrace. *sigh*
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My thoughts exactly. He has even admitted, though, that what he is putting out now is not going to be up to par with his mid nineties output. He said back then he would push himself to the point of nervous breakdowns until every song was absolute perfection in his eyes, but now he feels too old and content with life to be putting himself through it.

Kind of disappointing knowing all the new music is going to just be "meh...i guess..."
Lol, pathetic excuse really. Why bother, then?
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Lol, pathetic excuse really. Why bother, then?
Because he is still, however, an egomaniac who is desperate to stay relevant. I was a little relieved to see that Jimmy left the band, he could do better. He has, too...the Jimmy Chamberlin Complex kicks ass. It is a little depressing they aren't getting more attention.
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