Ninetales

Yes, she is.

Baroque-pop is very hit-and-miss with me. The Beatles, Beach Boys, The Byrds, etc Ive grown fairly indifferent too, and so the more similar bands that were popular I just dont ever feel the need to listen to (Monkees, Animals, etc). There are 60s artists I like, but in terms of popular music, I am more fond of newer stuff. (that kind of style is basically what i think of when i think of 60s pop; i know there is more)

Because since the 60s, music has exploded in to a much greater variety of sounds and genres. Even genres that were spearheaded or started gaining speed in the 60s (metal, krautrock, prog, drone, ambient, electronic, etc) has been better represented far past that decade. Hell id even say Belle & Sebastian is a better baroque-pop band than anyone in the 60s. The 60s didnt have shoegaze, post punk, post rock, noise (rock or otherwise), synthpop, numerous sub genres of metal and electronic, and on and on. So even though the 60s obviously had an influence on music now, it's been better realized by the succeeding decades.

Soulflower

How has she been involved in her music? Has she written any songs? Has she done any of her vocal arrangements? Has she decided on a theme of her album?


There are a ton of great artists from that era.

Check out any of these The Drifters, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis, The Dells, The Delphonics, Four Tops, James Brown, Temptations, Supremes, Tina and Ike Turner, Ray Charles, Jackson 5, Dina Washington, Doris Day, etc

If you prefer the music that is out now that is cool but there are other great artists from that era as well and outside of the rock genre.

I agree but the decade is still way better than today's. For one thing, the bands and artists actually used live instruments. I wouldn't classify any of those subgenres besides metal and maybe electronic as mainstream. Most sub genres are not commercial.

Ninetales

Yes



Sure, i was being general. There's tons of great artists from this era too.


I dont know what "live instruments" mean but ok. And i was talking about music overall being better now.

James

I'd take 'Stay' over most of the top 40 stuff from the sixties too.

Absolutely gorgeous song.
And there's more to art than the aspect of creation. It's performance. Singers can have voices that evoke emotions in people. Actors can interpret other people's writing and make it more human. I think both can be referred to as 'artists' because they take what others have created and embody it in a different way.

Soulflower

True

I think she has some catchy songs for sure but I personally would not say her music is better than the 60's simply because most of my favorite singers are 60s and 70's artists but if that is what you like, I can dig it

There is more to art besides creating but an artist is a creator. I think Rihanna is more involved in her "look" but "looks" and fashion doesn't have anything to do with music specifically. They at times can coincide with eachother but she is not a pop star that is involved in the creation of her music which is what defines an "artist"

FRED HALE SR.

Not to mention she sounds the same on every song. She doesn't seem to have much range. Rihanna likes to stay in her comfort zone. I like a few songs myself but she can't touch an artist like Chaka Kahn or Aretha.

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Soulflower

Oh hell nah she could never touch them even in her dreams she couldn't!

Agree!

Rihanna has a distinctive sound which is okay for the songs that she does but she doesn't have much depth or range as a singer.

Ninetales

well sure, if you want to ignore the songs that she is involved in the creation of

Scarlett O'Hara

I absolutely agree, Stay is incredible. I like some 60's pop but most of it is rubbish like a majority of pop songs today. It's never going to change. No matter how many threads you make about the same, damn thing.

I think that the majority of stars are told what they need to do by their label but generally they get to decide which songs suit them (by ghost writers), what type of concert sets they like and of course what they wear (although they will have stylists too). Lady Gaga is a good example of controlling the reigns of the information, songs, outfits, sets, etc. She is talented however many have said before she is too talented for pop songs. In saying that, I know a lot of people are the reason she is here today. People who helped come up with her name, managers, publicists, people who supported her financially.

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James

But that 'prancing' around the stage is just another aspect of the performance. Maybe it wasn't Whitney's style to put on a show like that because she could rely simply on her voice but Rihanna's public image and her stage show are just another element of her artistic oeuvre.

To reiterate, in the turn of the nineteenth century there was this popular Polish actress who used to sell out theatres, leave her audience in hysterical tears every night - just from reciting the alphabet. Her material wasn't important, this woman just had such a gorgeous way of expressing herself that she could draw out that much feeling from her audience. That's art to me.