RIP Glenn Frey, Eagles.

Floydy · 01-19-2016, 01:39 PM

One of my favourite bands. What a great songwriter and musician.

Says a bit about the guy though that one prominent journalist was asked for a comment. First thing he said even before praising Frey's attributes was "He was a great businessman". Perhaps a case of the money before the music in The Eagles case?

Neapolitan · 01-19-2016, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

No he didn't. He changed one word, on the basis of what someone else posted. That's not changing your mind.

No, I don't. I find THIS disrespectful:

There's no need to say you didn't care for him and then point out the bad things he did in his life. If you didn't like him or had an issue with him, don't bring it up on the day he died in his RIP thread. That's just so crass and in the very worst taste.

Perhaps not, but that's how it came across to me. And why even say it? Like I said, if someone had gone into the Bowie thread, or anyone else who died recently, and made these comments they'd be called out for it. Nobody is a saint, but you don't expect people to dig up grievances with or criticisms with you on the day you pass. I think it was a very ill-advised thing to do. It may have been taken up wrong, but the point is, why say it? It was not necessary.

Eagles were a band, and in some ways a family. Musicians join a band, they become band mates, band members start seeing their band mates as siblings. So there is some family dynamic to it. And this even extends to fans who begin feel like extended family members. If the band is dysfunctional I guess that spills over to the fans, and fans take sides. And they are assumed into the bands dysfunctional family problems.

Like John Donne said, "No man is an island." When Glenn died it not only affect him, but people around him. What if some people were in situations with him and had issues that went unresolved, assuming they did go unresolved. So what are they going through? How do they resolve this issues without him now that he's passed on? And even if there some sort of an apology from Glenn, how do they feel now? Do they have good memories mixed with bad? I imagine it's not only tough for his band mate and friend Don Henley, but the others as well. So I express my sympathy and said I felt sorry for them, because how they must feel now.

I never heard a bad word about the Eagles, but I heard plenty criticism of Bowie even from day one when I first heard him. I admit I've been conditioned to expect criticism of David Bowie. I would not be surprised if I found criticism in Bowie's RIP thread so I would most likely not call them out on it. I thought if I express anything or bring up any personal feeling about Bowie I would only open myself up for an ad hominem attack, even if what I said was positive. I really didn't go through the Bowie thread because of that.

Basil C. Thurston III · 01-19-2016, 03:16 PM

If you've never heard a bad word about the Eagles, then the rock you have been living under provides airtight conditions, lol...

Trollheart · 01-19-2016, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

I never heard a bad word about the Eagles, but I heard plenty criticism of Bowie even from day one when I first heard him. I admit I've been conditioned to expect criticism of David Bowie. I would not be surprised if I found criticism in Bowie's RIP thread so I would most likely not call them out on it. I thought if I express anything or bring up any personal feeling about Bowie I would only open myself up for an ad hominem attack, even if what I said was positive. I really didn't go through the Bowie thread because of that.

Actually, none of that refers to what I was saying. I didn't say there weren't problems with the Eagles. I'm not that naive. I just said it was in poor taste to bring them up on the very day he died. And I still stand by that.

As it goes, you can walk from the OP in the Bowie thread to the last post, and there is not one person --- not one --- who has anything in the slightest way negative to say about him. Even those who don't know his music acknowledge what a legend he was. 100% positive.

Neapolitan · 01-19-2016, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Basil C. Thurston III

If you've never heard a bad word about the Eagles, then the rock you have been living under provides airtight conditions, lol...

Nope, I honestly can say I have not heard a bad word about the band, Eagles, as a whole or the music from friends, and people I know irl. I have seen some less than positive statements about band members online, but again not about the band as a whole or the music. And I am excluding conspiracy theorists who go on about Hotel California, since I can't recall them saying the song wasn't any good. They were not critiquing the song musically, and evaluating the song as good or bad. They were just using the lyrics as a basis for their conspiracy theories.

Elvis, The Beatles, the Stones, Led Zeppelin, Billy Joel, David Bowie, Rush, Stevie Ray Vaughn, U2 etc etc I've heard or read criticism about them, on the boards or elsewhere.

Oh yeah ELP. I seen them slammed to death -- I almost forgot about that. But can't recall a bad word about Eagles.

**Frownland** · 01-19-2016, 04:11 PM

FRED HALE SR. · 01-19-2016, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I was waiting for this an entire day. LOL My Dad loves the ****ing Eagles and I had to listen to that **** for far too long, but I certainly respect them as musicians. Always been a Creedence man myself.

**Frownland** · 01-19-2016, 04:18 PM

I was going to let it slide until I saw Neapol's comments.

Neapolitan · 01-19-2016, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

How dare you. I can't wait till Trollheart see that. I hate to be you when it happens.

Still doesn't count, it was said out of irony to make people laugh cause everyone love the Eagles.

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**Frownland** · 01-19-2016, 04:23 PM

Or you could take what happens later in that scene as a joke about how defensive Eagles fans are about people not liking them.

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Floydy Music Addict Join Date: May 2014 Location: Hull, U.K. Posts: 129	One of my favourite bands. What a great songwriter and musician. Says a bit about the guy though that one prominent journalist was asked for a comment. First thing he said even before praising Frey's attributes was "He was a great businessman". Perhaps a case of the money before the music in The Eagles case?

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