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DwnWthVwls · 02-07-2019, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

well everyone is overqualified for menial labor

unless the person is with all due respect mentally retarded

and do we want a society built on the exploitation of people with disabilities?

Not really.

Zhanteimi · 02-07-2019, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

out of the people just on this forum that do menial labor jobs, I can't think of one that isn't sharp enough to do something that engages the mind

as much as I may be accused of elitism, I think it's a special kind of negative outlook on humanity to not observe that people are much smarter than their job generally allows them to be

I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness,
starving hysterical naked,
dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking
for an angry fix,
angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly
connection to the starry dynamo in the machinery of night,
who poverty and tatters and hollow-eyed and high sat up smoking
in the supernatural darkness of cold-water flats floating
across the tops of cities contemplating jazz.

-Ginsberg

WWWP · 02-07-2019, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Now that you’re a part of the bureaucracy you gotta spell it right

bureaucratic

If you start with b-u the autocorrect should save you

You're in a good mood today

OccultHawk · 02-07-2019, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

out of the people just on this forum that do menial labor jobs, I can't think of one that isn't sharp enough to do something that engages the mind

as much as I may be accused of elitism, I think it's a special kind of negative outlook on humanity to not observe that people are much smarter than their job generally allows them to be

it is however super convenient to believe that people who occupy these jobs must do so because they aren't as intelligent or moral as someone who does not

Why would I rent my intellect out to the entrepreneurial class?

You always get sucked into thinking like a future republican.

You’re smart. Use your brains to destroy this ****hole.

DwnWthVwls · 02-07-2019, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

out of the people just on this forum that do menial labor jobs, I can't think of one that isn't sharp enough to do something that engages the mind

as much as I may be accused of elitism, I think it's a special kind of negative outlook on humanity to not observe that people are much smarter than their job generally allows them to be

it is however super convenient to believe that people who occupy these jobs must do so because they aren't as intelligent or moral as someone who does not

I think there is a spectrum and a multitude of factors that result in overqualified people performing menial tasks, but in most cases they are probably there because that's the effort they've put into it. I guess you haven't worked jobs where people can't even put stuff in the right place or take an order correctly or follow directions. I don't think those people are necessarily unintelligent or whatever but when you screw things up like that it begs the question of how qualified they would be for something less menial. Demonstrating competence, problem solving, and a willingness to take initiative is not as common as you make it out to be and arguably necessary (rather you agree with it or not).

Lots of underqualified people in positions they shouldn't have via nepotism or networking, that's a problem too.

DwnWthVwls · 02-07-2019, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Why would I rent my intellect out to the entrepreneurial class?

Because it allows you to use your intelligence in a meaningful way? At least that's why I do it. I get to use my skills to clean up environmental disasters and that makes me happy and is one part of making my life meaningful.

OccultHawk · 02-07-2019, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

idk you tell me, I didn't say to do that

I don't know how to respond, because it's so much not what I said

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out of the people just on this forum that do menial labor jobs, I can't think of one that isn't sharp enough to do something that engages the mind

Having my mind engaged is republican for renting out my intellect.

Zhanteimi · 02-07-2019, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

it begs the question

It doesn't beg the question.

DwnWthVwls · 02-07-2019, 05:27 PM

What more of a reason do you need than it's something that needs to be done? I don't like cleaning the toilet, but it's necessary and should be done correctly. The general lack of consideration for contributing to the society you benefit from is a really ****ty attitude that a lot of people have.

OccultHawk · 02-07-2019, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

but what I wrote is that you could

as in you don't work a menial labor job because you're stupid

what you should or shouldn't do isn't exactly relevant

I believe there’s a clear implication there that I would be less exploited if they stole my thoughts.