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Old 06-04-2019, 07:59 PM   #351 (permalink)
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without rent control the cost of living is going to go up if more people are wanting to live there

beyond that it has nothing to do with governance

Austin is becoming the same way next will be Portland or whatever
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Old 06-04-2019, 08:05 PM   #352 (permalink)
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Methinks the lady doth protest too much. Or maybe you just don't have the attention span to actually look at what's happening over there. OH distilled a fair amount of what that video actually goes over. It isn't "culture war bull****", it's that SF is no longer a place where the vast majority of people can make a sustainable living. It's exactly the kind of place that Republicans love to use as a prime example of why liberals shouldn't run cities without right-wing oversight at the state level.

My comments about "freedom of the press" were more directed to your idiotic dismissal of a legitimate story covering a real problem rather than whether or not San Francisco had any good points culturally.
Did you really think that i dismissed the video itself? You don't think that linking up a video to respond to your ideas being challenged is a lazy copout? You genuinely don't believe that you're not participating in culture war bull**** by ****ting on the left and attempting to boost the right? Above all, Polly want a cracker?

Actually never mind all that, you're right: I lack the attention span required to watch a video to tell me what to think.
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Old 06-04-2019, 08:14 PM   #353 (permalink)
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without rent control the cost of living is going to go up if more people are wanting to live there

beyond that it has nothing to do with governance

Austin is becoming the same way next will be Portland or whatever
Maybe. I'd say the root of SF's problems is its archaic land-use code that effectively prevents anything taller than three or four stories from being constructed throughout the vast majority of the city.

While I don't generally advocate bulldozing existing homes to make room for newer, taller multifamily buildings, it's basic common sense that San Francisco needs far greater levels of urban housing density to even *begin* meeting the increased demand for it. The situation in Silicon Valley proper (and the East Bay) is vastly worse. Despite becoming one of the priciest housing areas in America, roughly 95% of its residential land contains traditional, suburban-style single-family houses. I've done a fair amount of business over there myself: I'm sure anyone who lives their can attest to what I'm talking about.

I'll also say this: despite a few scattered attempts over the decades to increase the area's housing density, neighborhood activists are the ones who created these problems originally...people who view practical change as anathema. This attitude has arguably spurred the region's housing crisis more than any other single cause. The rise of big Tech has only exacerbated and sped up the timeline for an inevitable collapse.

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Did you really think that i dismissed the video itself? You don't think that linking up a video to respond to your ideas being challenged is a lazy copout? You genuinely don't believe that you're not participating in culture war bull**** by ****ting on the left and attempting to boost the right? Above all, Polly want a cracker?

Actually never mind all that, you're right: I lack the attention span required to watch a video to tell me what to think.
The video doesn't tell you "what to think" buddy: it was an investigation and a series of interviews with people who actually live there. The real estate situation over there is a legitimate crisis and the video does a better job than I could at illustrating all of the history associated with the issue. Your initial response, however, was a dismissal of the video itself because it came from Business Insider. If you think my response was a "lazy copout", then why would you bother responding the way you did?
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Your initial response, however, was a dismissal of the video itself because it came from Business Insider.
Keep insisting that this is the case if you like, but that's not at all true. I got Ritz and saltines which one do you want
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Are you referring to the place with so much opportunity and so much to do that they can regulate business to the point of restriction and still be a desirable place to live? Ja, I guess that really disproves my point.
This was your statement that you seem to think I didn't respond adequately to. Give me a glass of milk so I can spit it up laughing. One of my best buds who works at Oracle HQ would have a field day with you.
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without rent control the cost of living is going to go up if more people are wanting to live there

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Austin is becoming the same way next will be Portland or whatever
Its virtually impossible to find a one bedroom in Seattle now since the cost of living has skyrocketed in the past few years. Credit to the tech companies making this their new home. You used to be able to get a 600$ a month one bedroom in downtown Seattle. You're lucky to find a studio for lower than twice that amount these days. That and too many people live here now.

And I'm just saying this because I wanted to respond but I literally know **** all about what you guys are talking about.
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and problem with building more housing is you run into a serious case of NIMBY
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Well idk about other places, but the amount of homes they've been putting in my area is ridiculous. Basically if there's a plot of land available, they're putting houses there to compensate for the larger population here. They just got done building a set of 6 or 7 houses right next to my old elementary school with only a sidewalk separating it. I hate it, personally. Too many people wanna live here now. What's funny is there is also a large percentage of people that end up leaving because they cant stand the weather.
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