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BassoonPlatoon 09-23-2021 08:38 PM

We can only hope.

Psy-Fi 10-07-2021 11:21 AM

'Headbutting a keyboard is now a sexuality': Justin Trudeau is mocked for using the latest sexual identities acronym 2SLGBTQQIA+

Marie Monday 10-07-2021 01:25 PM

Ah I remember when we had a discussion about this here on mb. Acronyms, truly hilarious :rolleyes:

WWWP 10-07-2021 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi (Post 2187431)
2SLGBTQQIA+

didn't know Elon had another kid

bob_32_116 10-07-2021 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 1983960)
You're looking at one...;) And if my memory serves me well, I think wolverine might be bi? Or I got it mixed up. In any case, there have been more than one, and I'm sure that's still the case, whether that's talked about a lot or not. ;)

...and another one here.

This is probably as good a moment as any to comment that I have always felt somewhat isolated in the gay community, being a gay man whose musical tastes seem very much at odds with those of most of the LGBT community. Gay males seem to be supposed to love (a) musicals (the old time sort, not rock musicals); (b) anything with a danceable beat, irrespective of how monotonous; (c) anything bright and poppy in the Eurovision style, no matter how banal the tune or how vacuous the lyrics, as long as it's "life-affirming". I get bored with all that VERY quickly.

Now I like some disco tunes, I like some songs from musicals, and I like ABBA, but the existence of exceptions does not change my general dislike for most of the music that forms part of "gay culture". My suspicion is that it's a tribal thing. Saying "Yay, I love Kylie too" gets you accepted as part of the tribe.

Talk to most gay men about progressive rock, or indeed just about anything with drums and guitars, and you get a blank look. Again, this is a generalisation, but it's so often true. Also, for some odd reason, most of the artists that gay men hold up as music icons seem to be female.

The interesting thing is that least two of my favourite singer/songwriters are gay: Elton John, and George Michael.

bob_32_116 10-07-2021 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2187458)
Ah I remember when we had a discussion about this here on mb. Acronyms, truly hilarious :rolleyes:

One of the properties of an acronym is that it forms a word, or something that could conceivably be a word; it has to at least be pronounceable. When you get to the ridiculous stage where an abbreviation is so messy that it cannot even be remembered without a written prompt, let alone pronounced, I start to think it would be better to just use a catch-all term such as "non-hetero".

Marie Monday 10-07-2021 04:44 PM

Agreed, definitely. It's just that a lot of the ridicule is just kind of dire and homophobic

LEGALISE DRUGS AND MURDER 10-07-2021 06:50 PM

I'm queer

adidasss 10-08-2021 11:02 AM

‘Dear White People’ Showrunner Jaclyn Moore on Why She’s Boycotting Netflix Over Transphobic Dave Chappelle Special (EXCLUSIVE)

Sad to hear this guy is still weirdly obsessed with trans people. I think they were the subject of his jokes for the past couple of specials, and this latest apparently continues the trend. What's really strange is that Netflix keeps pushing them out. Hopefully someone will pull the plug on this guy in the near future. :/

jwb 10-09-2021 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2187459)
didn't know Elon had another kid

Lol

Wtf they're adding **** to the beginning of the acronym now???

jwb 10-10-2021 02:54 PM

I'm gonna check that Chappelle special out but tbh I'm kinda weary that it's on the trans **** again... It's time to move on before he becomes a one trick pony

elphenor 10-10-2021 03:04 PM

I like that it's "just a joke" except it never was

jwb 10-10-2021 03:26 PM

What is it then?

jwb 10-10-2021 03:34 PM

Also the irony is that for all the people who whine about edgelord material like Dave .. if they just ignored the first jokes he made about trans in 2017 then it might've ended there. At this point his career is being propped up by the people writing outraged articles about him just as much as it is by his actual fans

The Batlord 10-10-2021 03:46 PM

You know you can just admit that maybe he has a bad take on trans people. It's not like it's rare or aberrant.

Frownland 10-10-2021 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2187762)
You know you can just admit that maybe he has a bad take on trans people. It's not like it's rare or aberrant.

Free thinkers aren't worried about looking bad to libtards.

jwb 10-10-2021 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2187762)
You know you can just admit that maybe he has a bad take on trans people. It's not like it's rare or aberrant.

It's not rare or aberrant and i don't know why you require me to "admit" anything.... I never said anything about him having great takes on trans u just don't seem to realize not everything revolves around having the best takes

The Batlord 10-10-2021 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2187780)
It's not rare or aberrant and i don't know why you require me to "admit" anything.... I never said anything about him having great takes on trans u just don't seem to realize not everything revolves around having the best takes

But you don't do any kind of analysis about his takes, you just get defensive like he has to not be wrong for the sake of comedy's pride.

jwb 10-10-2021 07:00 PM

What kind of analysis? The **** are you talking about lol

I never said he's right for comedy's sake. It is irrelevant if he's right or wrong.

Frownland 10-10-2021 07:24 PM

I thought he was a saviour of comedic traditions because of his insightfully subversive social commentary.

jwb 10-10-2021 07:32 PM

Well i read hyping him up a bit yeah the special wasn't that great but it was pretty funny

As for the legacy of comedy... It's not about Dave saving us or being any sort of martyr it's just that's the standard response to backlash against edgy comedy is to point out that it has always had that element sorta built into it .. that doesn't mean the edgy material is something that i would advocate for seriously....

He does have good social commentary though... The trans bit was far from his best material too it just got the most attention cause it's the topic of the decade apparently

The Batlord 10-10-2021 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2187785)
What kind of analysis? The **** are you talking about lol

I never said he's right for comedy's sake. It is irrelevant if he's right or wrong.

1. Analysis of how you think his points should be interpreted.

2. If it's irrelevant then why are you sticking up for him every time this issue comes up? Shouldn't you just ignore this cause you don't care?

Frownland 10-10-2021 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2187788)
As for the legacy of comedy... It's not about Dave saving us or being any sort of martyr it's just that's the standard response to backlash against edgy comedy is to point out that it has always had that element sorta built into it .. that doesn't mean the edgy material is something that i would advocate for seriously....

Framing edgy comedy (not that Chapelle is as edgy as he's attempting to be) as social commentary and as something not worth criticizing due to its permanence might as well be advocacy. Sophist intention won't undo that.

jwb 10-10-2021 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2187789)
1. Analysis of how you think his points should be interpreted.

2. If it's irrelevant then why are you sticking up for him every time this issue comes up? Shouldn't you just ignore this cause you don't care?

I didn't stick up for him or his 'takes' i just pointed out that you guys with your anti edgelord take-comedians-to-task following are probably just egging him on to do it more...

WWWP 10-10-2021 08:36 PM

I saw someone refer to him as Joe Rohan’s one black friend

Frownland 10-10-2021 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2187794)
I didn't stick up for him or his 'takes' i just pointed out that you guys with your anti edgelord take-comedians-to-task following are probably just egging him on to do it more...

Agreed, being a spiteful baby is the crux of all great comedy.

jwb 10-10-2021 09:08 PM

Yeah, he should've apologized for the jokes and swore to do better next time... I'm sure that would create a buzz... :rolleyes:

Frownland 10-10-2021 09:21 PM

Good point. I guess presentist trend-chasing is the true crux.

jwb 10-10-2021 09:27 PM

It is the crux of money/fame/status.....

That's no different from nannette or any of the leftist tryhard comedy where people try to make the most enlightened takes sound funny... Which they just don't imo. Where as Dave just takes everyman ignorance and tries to make that sound funny and imo does a better job

Frownland 10-10-2021 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2187805)
It is the crux of money/fame/status.....

The wealthy always be crackin the best zingers.

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That's no different from nannette or any of the leftist tryhard comedy where people try to make the most enlightened takes sound funny... Which they just don't imo. Where as Dave just takes everyman ignorance and tries to make that sound funny and imo does a better job
Definitely, it's very similar to tryhard comedy that only appeals to people who are desperate to be agreed with because that's exactly what it is.

jwb 10-10-2021 10:08 PM

Maybe for some but i don't find it funny cause i agree with it...i just liked his special and you didn't. I can say you only dislike it for political reasons and you can say i only like it for political reasons. Bottom line is though i been a fan since long before any of this political **** and the modern dave chappelle really isn't much different from the old Chappelle show Dave

LEGALISE DRUGS AND MURDER 10-10-2021 10:08 PM

https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...mple-doom.html

Made this thread to prove I'm a ****

LEGALISE DRUGS AND MURDER 10-10-2021 10:09 PM

D y
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jwb 10-10-2021 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2187807)
The wealthy always be crackin the best zingers.

you are great at responding to **** i never said lol you do it almost every post

Frownland 10-10-2021 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2187810)
Maybe for some but i don't find it funny cause i agree with it...i just liked his special and you didn't. I can say you only dislike it for political reasons and you can say i only like it for political reasons. Bottom line is though i been a fan since long before any of this political **** and the modern dave chappelle really isn't much different from the old Chappelle show Dave

I wouldn't expect you to consciously recognize it fwiw. Laughter is at its core emotionally driven and can blind us to why we're laughing at times. I don't find his trans jokes funny because I heard them before and even outside of it being based in ignorance, that's just lazy. Maybe he can perform the chicken crossing the road bit in a way that'd slay you, but at that point you just seem to just like his voice and he'd be better off making silly noises lol

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2187813)
you are great at responding to **** i never said lol you do it almost every post

New study shows that implication exists

jwb 10-10-2021 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2187816)
I wouldn't expect you to consciously recognize it fwiw. Laughter is at its core emotionally driven and can blind us to why we're laughing at times. I don't find his trans jokes funny because I heard them before and even outside of it being based in ignorance, that's just lazy. Maybe he can perform the chicken crossing the road bit in a way that'd slay you, but at that point you just seem to just like his voice and he'd be better off making silly noises lol

lol making funny noises like maybe doing a Chinese face and voice??? Good point frownland that's what he should be doing :bonkhead:

You can claim to know better than i do why I'm laughing but thats just like.. your opinion man. And even though you prance around like some sort of balding professor you ain't demonstrated **** homie.



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New study shows that implication exists
What i said did not imply what you said. That's the problem frowny.

Frownland 10-11-2021 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2187819)
lol making funny noises like maybe doing a Chinese face and voice??? Good point frownland that's what he should be doing :bonkhead:

Hey don't knock it till you try it or have a part of you criticized that you're unwilling to confront.

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You can claim to know better than i do why I'm laughing
I'm more asking you to either be more honest about why you find it funny or to try to take us to the place where we can appreciate it too instead of circularly saying that you think it's funny because you think Chapelle's funny. Well, I'm not really asking you because you'll predictably backpedal and try to shift the conversation into irrelevancy, but I'm in the mood for some masdebation today and couldn't help myself.

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What i said did not imply what you said. That's the problem frowny.
Duh. Your statements imply your meaning, not my statements. :bonkhead:

I get your larger point about it being a marketing tactic and have made it on this forum many times myself. Why play into that exploitation device though?

jwb 10-11-2021 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2187825)
Hey don't knock it till you try it or have a part of you criticized that you're unwilling to confront.

what?

I'll admit I'm high and drunk but i re read this and what you were responding to several times and i don't know wtf you're saying

Don't knock what till i try it?



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I'm more asking you to either be more honest about why you find it funny or to try to take us to the place where we can appreciate it too instead of circularly saying that you think it's funny because you think Chapelle's funny.
be more honest how exactly? What would that look like? "I found it funny cause i hate trannies"? Again you are assuming to know why i found it funny which... I think i did say in my previous post and in posts before that that the funniest part about the trans joke on there was the Chinese face he made... And the trans joke wasn't even close to the funniest part of the special, which is what i actually praised in the first place.

It seems like you're basically implying with this post that either i should be able to convince you to find it funny too or else I'm lying about why i find it funny... But I'm sure I'm mistaken.




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Duh. Your statements imply your meaning, not my statements. :bonkhead:

I get your larger point about it being a marketing tactic and have made it on this forum many times myself. Why play into that exploitation device though?
my statement didn't imply that wealthy people are funny or whatever the **** you said is my point

And the reason i brought up the money/success angle goes backs to what i was saying about the outrage mob fueling his resurgence.

Frownland 10-11-2021 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2187826)
what?

I'll admit I'm high and drunk but i re read this and what you were responding to several times and i don't know wtf you're saying

Don't knock what till i try it?

Silly voice Chapelle.

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be more honest how exactly? What would that look like? "I found it funny cause i hate trannies"? Again you are assuming to know why i found it funny which... I think i did say in my previous post and in posts before that that the funniest part about the trans joke on there was the Chinese face he made... And the trans joke wasn't even close to the funniest part of the special, which is what i actually praised in the first place.
Just own it instead of toeing the line before backpedaling.

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It seems like you're basically implying with this post that either i should be able to convince you to find it funny too or else I'm lying about why i find it funny... But I'm sure I'm mistaken.
More that the two sides of the convo aren't comparable because I've explained why it is that I don't find it funny while you're saying that you find it funny without going into how that's separate from your illiberal politics.

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my statement didn't imply that wealthy people are funny or whatever the **** you said is my point

And the reason i brought up the money/success angle goes backs to what i was saying about the outrage mob fueling his resurgence.
Maybe. It seems more likely than people liking him for his stale jokes.

Why are you trying to mitigate what's driving the success of a comedian you like?

jwb 10-11-2021 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2187827)
Silly voice Chapelle.

oh i see.. apparently you missed my point which is that the trans joke in question was pretty much exactly that. A funny voice and face impression of a Chinese guy. That was the literal punchline of the joke bud.


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Just own it instead of toeing the line before backpedaling.
what is it you would like me to own?



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More that the two sides of the convo aren't comparable because I've explained why it is that I don't find it funny while you're saying that you find it funny without going into how that's separate from your reactionary illiberal politics.
lol get real all you said is it's lazy and you heard it before etc. Very generic and dismissive appraisal tbh.. not at all insightful or convincing.

Where as i said i found the Chinese face funny... Sorry i don't have a "reason" it's just funny.


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Why are you trying to mitigate what's driving the success of a comedian you like?
I'm not trying to mitigate it. I'm just identifying it for the sake of conversation. I don't put any effort into either helping or harming Dave Chappelle lol. My efforts here are entirely self serving. Dummy.


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