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OctaneHugo 06-15-2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SBWNik (Post 880703)
Having heard three others.

and they're all by blink 182

Rocknroll_Animal 06-15-2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OctaneHugo (Post 883298)
and they're all by blink 182

Give him the benefit of the doubt - I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic

lukew 06-15-2010 04:37 PM

is there any clash live albums about?

Halpert 06-15-2010 11:36 PM

London Calling

Sgt Pilcher 06-18-2010 11:42 AM

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is there any clash live albums about?
Live at Shea stadium, an I think the other one is called from here to eternity.
For me its a tie between the s/t and Give em, so I voted Give em cus of how few votes it had.

Screen13 06-29-2010 09:28 PM

London Calling for me. Out of all the Comps not listed in the original poll, Super Black Market Clash is possibly my favorite for it has many under-rated tracks and a wide diversity.

A close second in the poll clearly is the Debut.

Screen13 06-29-2010 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocknroll_Animal (Post 879576)
'London Calling', closely followed by The Clash: UK'. Then I'd probably put 'Super Black Market Clash' and 'Combat Rock', then 'Sandinista'. Never heard 'Cut The Crap' - at the time I was addicted to The Clash, I considered the ousting of Mick a travesty. At any rate, a top group.


Personal opinion - Cutting the crap from Cut the Crap = an album with only one blinding great A-Side, "This is England" and nothing else. I can understand why the album is shoved out of view for to me it's clearly the work of a musician trying to create something out of a dire situation and an Manager getting into the show resulting in something that's on a level of leaving with a whimper.

Actually, someone should have tried to get the "New Look" Clash into doing an album based on their head-turning but actually slightly successful "Busking" tour. Now THAT would have been very interesting, but now it's filed under lost opportunities in my view. Still, there are some defenders of Cut the Crap, but when I heard it, it was the sound of something not going well.

million dollar basher 07-01-2010 12:57 PM

^^^
"London Calling" all the way. "The Clash" and "Give 'Em Enough Rope" tie for second....

Gate 49 07-05-2010 04:55 PM

Sandinista- because of Hitsville U.K,Somebody got Murdered,The Call Up among others
I dont think Give em Enough gets enough credit(I prefer it to the Clash)but Sandinista is my favourite

million dollar basher 07-06-2010 10:15 AM

"Sandinista!" belongs on the bottom of my list, not because it's a bad album but because "London Calling" and "Give 'em Enough Rope" were nearly flawless.

Sansa Stark 07-06-2010 10:53 AM

Sandinista! is excellent, gtfo

million dollar basher 07-06-2010 11:03 AM

Didn't say it wasn't a great album....I just think they broke the mold with "London Calling".

The comparison is like the difference between "Dookie" and "Warning" in my opinion. "Warning" was markedly more focused and mature than most of Greenday's material, but "Dookie" was the album that appealed to me when I was a spiteful little jerk of a kid.

Sansa Stark 07-06-2010 01:06 PM

aww hell no, you didn't just compare Green Day and the Clash


If you want an apt comparison, London Calling is more their Sgt Peppers, while Sandinista! is definitely more White Album (Super/Black Market Clash is obviously their Magical Mystery Tour)

million dollar basher 07-06-2010 01:27 PM

Aaaah Green Day had some credibility in the industry back in the day. It would be unfair to deny that in light of their recent musical travesties.

And the comparison is apt, to me, if for no other reason than The Clash left a definite imprint on Greenday's sound, though Stiff Little Fingers, as Nick Hornby appropriately said, had a far greater impact on them than anybody....but I digress.

I like the Sgt. Peppers comparison, though I find it hard to compare anybody's body of work to that of the Beatles. They churned out some of the most revolutionary music ever in such a short, short span of time.

But I think the same might be able to be said of the Clash, though not many would admit it.

TumorAttitude 07-06-2010 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by million dollar basher (Post 895530)
The comparison is like the difference between "Dookie" and "Warning" in my opinion. "Warning" was markedly more focused and mature than most of Greenday's material, but "Dookie" was the album that appealed to me when I was a spiteful little jerk of a kid.

That isn't even right, bro. "Dookie" was wildly popular dispite it being just kind of good and ushered Green Day in as one of the most popular bands in the world. "Warning" is considered Green Day's crappy, pussy pop album. Both critics and fans hate it.

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Originally Posted by million dollar basher (Post 895586)
Aaaah Green Day had some credibility in the industry back in the day. It would be unfair to deny that in light of their recent musical travesties.

Well, they went from being called angsty poprock assholes to being called blasphemizing and anti-American hacks, so....I guess thats a loss of cred.

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Originally Posted by million dollar basher (Post 895530)
They churned out some of the most revolutionary music ever in such a short, short span of time.

But I think the same might be able to be said of the Clash, though not many would admit it.

YES YES YES
The Clash deserve to be as big of a sacred cow as the Beatles but people who listen to the Clash arn't nearly annoying enough to make that happen.

Sansa Stark 07-06-2010 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by million dollar basher (Post 895586)
And the comparison is apt, to me, if for no other reason than The Clash left a definite imprint on Greenday's sound, though Stiff Little Fingers, as Nick Hornby appropriately said, had a far greater impact on them than anybody....but I digress.


Green Day were more of Operation Ivy rip offs than they were anything like Stiff Little Fingers (come on, throw me a bone, don't be so insulting!!!) and who else had such a huge influence on Stiff Little Fingers than the Clash!?

Public Enemy 07-06-2010 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 464301)
For anyone that's interested.

The version of Combat Rock that was released was the bands 2nd attempt at recording it. Originally they tried to make the album with Mick Jones handling the production. From those sessions I present to you the original version of Should I Stay Or Should I Go , complete with more Spanish lyrics and a saxophone solo...

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I did not know that, but thats very interesting

My favourite is there self titled album

Gate 49 07-06-2010 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma (Post 895623)
Green Day were more of Operation Ivy rip offs than they were anything like Stiff Little Fingers (come on, throw me a bone, don't be so insulting!!!) and who else had such a huge influence on Stiff Little Fingers than the Clash!?

Jake Burns even wrote a song "Strummerville" as tribute to Joe

Screen13 07-07-2010 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma (Post 895578)


If you want an apt comparison, London Calling is more their Sgt Peppers, while Sandinista! is definitely more White Album (Super/Black Market Clash is obviously their Magical Mystery Tour)

On the target comparison! Although I'm more thinking London Calling more in comparison to Revolver while skipping the usually Light Entertainment of Pepper, that's a correct view.

Sansa Stark 07-08-2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Gate 49 (Post 895723)
Jake Burns even wrote a song "Strummerville" as tribute to Joe

He did indeed! That's what I immediately was reminded of. Stiff Little Fingers aren't even comparable to Green Day at all, they are quite different. Weird.

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Originally Posted by Screen13 (Post 896571)
On the target comparison! Although I'm more thinking London Calling more in comparison to Revolver while skipping the usually Light Entertainment of Pepper, that's a correct view.

Thanks, it may be a more personal comparison because with both records, they are the only full records I can play end to end many times and never really get sick of em

million dollar basher 07-08-2010 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Paloma (Post 895623)
Green Day were more of Operation Ivy rip offs than they were anything like Stiff Little Fingers (come on, throw me a bone, don't be so insulting!!!) and who else had such a huge influence on Stiff Little Fingers than the Clash!?

Haha didn't mean to sound like a prick.

Yes, you're right; The Clash had a definite influence on the SLF. But I've never noticed an overwhelming Op Ivy influence in Green Day, but that's an interesting idea. I'm gonna break out the old Green Day albums and listen to 'em with that in mind.

Since we're talking about the Clash, I am always interested to hear what fans thought of the Pogues.

Odyshape 07-08-2010 11:21 PM

What do you guys consider your favorite clash song? Mine is stay free. Such an addictive song.

Seltzer 07-09-2010 11:22 AM

Mine is probably the one following that, Cheapskates. What a fantastic song!


Alfred 07-09-2010 02:20 PM

Straight To Hell, but I can not say enough good things about this:

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Originally Posted by Odyshape (Post 897064)
What do you guys consider your favorite clash song? Mine is stay free. Such an addictive song.

Such an underrated song and probably my second favorite.

Connair 07-24-2010 03:31 PM

My favorite song would have to be White Riot! Even being an old song it still gets me thinking.

But also I have to say I love Train in Vain. I can never get enough of that song.

Raust 07-30-2010 11:12 PM

London Calling for me, next to no filler on there.

fritter 07-31-2010 12:37 AM

London Calling is obviously their best album but their debut is better as a work of true punk.

bannister 08-06-2010 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by million dollar basher (Post 896811)
Haha didn't mean to sound like a prick.

Yes, you're right; The Clash had a definite influence on the SLF. But I've never noticed an overwhelming Op Ivy influence in Green Day, but that's an interesting idea. I'm gonna break out the old Green Day albums and listen to 'em with that in mind.

Since we're talking about the Clash, I am always interested to hear what fans thought of the Pogues.

On the topic of Op Ivy and Green Day... here, have a cover of Knowledge.



Blech.

Anyways, I'm going to agree with pretty much everyone and say that London Calling is my favorite... even though it's become a huge musical sacred cow. S/T and Combat Rock go next.

SATCHMO 08-07-2010 01:23 AM

While on the topic of Clash covers:


Alfred 10-29-2010 03:23 PM

Can we lock this thread and make "Best Clash album other than London Calling?"

GreenMeany 11-01-2010 07:40 AM

S/T - the original UK version. It has a more rocking version of White Riot without the sirens in the intro. The sirens version is the single version and for some reasons sounds a bit less ragged.

Crank it!


Badlittlekitten 11-01-2010 02:23 PM

London Calling? Surely not. Legendary album, but a bit over long and filler tastic. The Clash trims the fat right off.

The globally informed, trad rock Clash were great, but I've always preferred the visceral, no nonsense Clash of the debut and the early singles.

Nathan1709 11-03-2010 08:42 AM

Has to be London Calling purely on the basis that it demonstrates such versatility. Other than that their eponymous first album is pretty cool and I also don't mind their oft-maligned sophmore effort, Give 'em enough rope.

GreenMeany 11-03-2010 01:38 PM

2 votes for Cut The Crap? Really???

Deakin18 11-29-2010 11:44 PM

Give Them Enough Rope has got to my favorite, it's got the most of my fav songs on it. 2nd fav would be The First Album.

Moriarity 11-30-2010 11:51 AM

Think a lot of fuss is made out of Sandinista having some duff songs, the first two of the three records are very good indeed and there are three or four songs on London Calling that in my opinion are less than essential. If push came to shove I would say London Calling is the slightly better record but I listen to Sandinista far more these days.

npc210 11-30-2010 10:13 PM

I'd go with the UK version of The Clash.

After that, it's London Calling and Give 'Em not far behind.

Sandinista would've been fantastic as one record or even two, IMO. Some great moments individually --"Hitsville UK", "Somebody Got Murdered", etc. -- but too much filler to wade through as a triple album.

Sansa Stark 11-30-2010 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Moriarity (Post 962678)
Think a lot of fuss is made out of Sandinista having some duff songs, the first two of the three records are very good indeed and there are three or four songs on London Calling that in my opinion are less than essential. If push came to shove I would say London Calling is the slightly better record but I listen to Sandinista far more these days.

pink suit you are okay in my book

Howard the Duck 09-29-2011 12:49 AM

Sandinista! - just for diversity, though i hardly ever hear the final side

S/T UK version runner-up - the flow of the songs is better than the US version

paulr 10-02-2011 04:22 PM

1st album for me - then it was a gradual downwards slope as they moved from punk to mainstream.

Brilliant live though - and good guys to have a beer with too


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