Nevermind, let's talk about the same handful of bands that suck ad nauseum

**Janszoon** · 07-20-2010, 08:26 PM

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tomato/tomato.

My point stands unchallenged.

What point? You told me to read exactly what you post. I was just following your instructions.

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David Bowie is NOT a "Philadelphia Soul" artist - he may have indeed put out a couple of records that borrowed freely from that subgenre of a regional music scene...but I always referred to TWD and Young Americans as "blue-eyed soul" - a direct precursor to Micheal Bolton.

You're right, whoever put Bowie on the list shouldn't have put him there. So what though?

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So we can indirectly thank Philly for Michael Bolton, Disco, and that homogenized cream cheese.

Huh? How about indirectly thanking Philly for the O'Jays instead?

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as for everyone else on that list - meh.

There are a couple decent artists on there, but no one that stands out and makes me go "Philly is a ROCKING town!"

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Meh.

Ween and the Roots are ok.

The Dead Milkmen were funny for a second...

But, again, nothing on THAT list makes me go "Philly is a ROCKING town!"

Your loss I guess. I've never made the claim that Philly is the greatest music city on the planet or anything, I'm just simply refuting your claim that there isn't "a single decent band" from here.

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...and they haven't released a record worth listening to in 10 years, easy.

I'm sorry but this right here is self-evidentally bullshit to anyone with even a passing interest in current loud music.

Unknown Soldier · 07-21-2010, 01:06 AM

Looking on the net, Philadelphia seems to have a very rich musical heritage. The recent music scene there, seems to be dominated by electronic, R&B, hip-hop, reggae and classical music..........All in all a lot of musical diversity.

boo boo · 07-21-2010, 01:19 AM

Telepicker is a dope. Do we have to justify our favorite bands solely on their commercial success and impact?

The Beatles are one of my favorite bands, and the only way I have to justify it is pointing out the fact that they made really really really awesome music. Simple right?

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blasphemy!

Bolding KISS instead of GnR is the real blasphemy.

**Janszoon** · 07-21-2010, 06:38 AM

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Looking on the net, Philadelphia seems to have a very rich musical heritage. The recent music scene there, seems to be dominated by electronic, R&B, hip-hop, reggae and classical music..........All in all a lot of musical diversity.

There are also big freakfolk and hardcore/emo-type scenes in this area. I'm not a big fan of either but there are certainly plenty of people are who are.

mr dave · 07-21-2010, 07:19 AM

holy crap this again?

it's not rocket science. The Beatles DID change the way pop culture, society, and yes musicians approached and handled their music. AFTER they got around to releasing Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. prior to that, active musicians of the day wrote them off the way most musicians off the 90s wrote off the Backstreet Boys and N'Sync. this is not my opinion but the actions and opinions of older relatives who were active musicians from the late 50s until the 90s. they were basically just a boy band for little girls until they started getting stoned.

the idea that modern music was a virtual wasteland until The Beatles finally apparead and opened everything up for the masses is either an ignorant farce or an effective troll.

~~telepicker~~ · 07-21-2010, 11:13 AM

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holy crap this again?

it's not rocket science. The Beatles DID change the way pop culture, society, and yes musicians approached and handled their music. AFTER they got around to releasing Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. prior to that, active musicians of the day wrote them off the way most musicians off the 90s wrote off the Backstreet Boys and N'Sync. this is not my opinion but the actions and opinions of older relatives who were active musicians from the late 50s until the 90s. they were basically just a boy band for little girls until they started getting stoned.

the idea that modern music was a virtual wasteland until The Beatles finally apparead and opened everything up for the masses is either an ignorant farce or an effective troll.

made my point for me.

Not whether or not you like them - they changed music forever = FACT

not some nitwit's opnion, it's fact. It really happened.

And just about EVERYTHING in popular and recorded music post-67 is either directly or indirectly influenced by them.

Just one example:

the Beatles were Ozzy Osbourne and Geezer Butler's main inspiration for taking up music and starting the band that would become Black Sabbath.

Black Sabbath influenced countless more, spawing many subgenres that stem from the catchall term "Heavy Metal."

The Beatles were also an influence on Clapton, Baker and Bruce forming a POP band they called "the Cream". Van Halen was called Mammoth in the early 70's, and they were basically a Cream cover band. Then thy started writing their own songs, which influenced countless others, including Dimebag Darrel, who started his own band called Pantera...

I could go on and on and on - the point is, they may be YOUR favorite group, but I guarantee a good portion if the artists YOU love are heavily influenced by them.

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Telepicker is a dope.

and you are a moron.

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What point? You told me to read exactly what you post. I was just following your instructions.

yeah, I was hoping you would comprehend the point of my original post...to no avail.

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You're right, whoever put Bowie on the list shouldn't have put him there. So what though?

it means I don't know who on that list is really from Philadelphia and who isn't.

The whole list could be a farce - that's the problem with Wiki.

It proves nothing.

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Huh? How about indirectly thanking Philly for the O'Jays instead?

weren't Cinderella from Philly?

That negates the Ojays.

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Your loss I guess. I've never made the claim that Philly is the greatest music city on the planet or anything, I'm just simply refuting your claim that there isn't "a single decent band" from here.

Forgive me for not recognizing Philadelphia for the fertile musical hotbed that it is.

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I'm sorry but this right here is self-evidentally bullshit to anyone with even a passing interest in current loud music.

not really; somewhere around 15 I started a musical maturation process, and pretty much quit listening to music like that.

Not sayin it doesn't have merit...but I don't like it.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-21-2010, 11:16 AM

Cast were from Liverpool so that negates the Beatles

~~James~~ · 07-21-2010, 11:18 AM

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Cast were from Liverpool so that negates the Beatles

QFT

~~telepicker~~ · 07-21-2010, 11:30 AM

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Cast were from Liverpool so that negates the Beatles

Yeah, right.

Never heard of 'em - doesn't count.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-21-2010, 11:33 AM

Rick Astley is from Liverpool so that negates the Beatles

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Unknown Soldier Horribly Creative Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: London, The Big Smoke Posts: 8,265	Looking on the net, Philadelphia seems to have a very rich musical heritage. The recent music scene there, seems to be dominated by electronic, R&B, hip-hop, reggae and classical music..........All in all a lot of musical diversity.