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Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-24-2017 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1808685)
The two aren't connected in anyway though

Should everyone who's bad with money not get a driver's license? And do we let the DMV decide that by looking at your finances lol

this is probably the dumbest comparison you could of come up with

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-24-2017 04:17 PM

well idk considering they're two entirely different things that serve entirely different purposes.

oh wait, maybe there are some people who rely on a gun to get them to and from work...

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-24-2017 04:19 PM

so whats your gimmick here, do you want gun regulations or not? im not in agreement with the money thing. but certainly we need more mental health testing to own a gun.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-24-2017 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1808698)
Kind of like being bad with money is entirely different from having a violent disorder

100% agree

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-24-2017 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1808704)
I already said I'm for more gun regulations

However this particular rule I understand the removal of as it is indeed an overreach

i think this is the first time we've come to an agreement so yeah good stuff i agree

DwnWthVwls 02-24-2017 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1808685)
The two aren't connected in anyway though

Should everyone who's bad with money not get a driver's license? And do we let the DMV decide that by looking at your finances lol

I'll admit, my views on guns are pretty extreme, I don't think it should be a right. I see no reason for anyone to own one. If you want to argue it's for protection then prove you need protection and demonstrate how a gun will protect you. The DMV also doesn't do background checks which shows the two are looked at differently.

Chula Vista 02-24-2017 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1808710)
I'll admit, my views on guns are pretty extreme, I don't think it should be a right. I see no reason for anyone to own one. If you want to argue it's for protection then prove you need protection and demonstrate how a gun will protect you. The DMV also doesn't do background checks which shows the two are looked at differently.

Agreed to a point. The wording and syntax of the 2nd is so messed up that I don't believe it is actually a right.

FRED HALE SR. 02-24-2017 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1808710)
I'll admit, my views on guns are pretty extreme, I don't think it should be a right. I see no reason for anyone to own one. If you want to argue it's for protection then prove you need protection and demonstrate how a gun will protect you. The DMV also doesn't do background checks which shows the two are looked at differently.

It absolutely should be a right. Its already become a travesty in California for the wait periods and background checks involved. You might as well be muslim entering the country at this time for comparisons. I think millions of people for many milleniums have demonstrated how guns can protect you, thats pretty much why they exist.

Chula Vista 02-24-2017 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1808716)
It absolutely should be a right. Its already become a travesty in California for the wait periods and background checks involved. You might as well be muslim entering the country at this time for comparisons. I think millions of people for many milleniums have demonstrated how guns can protect you, thats pretty much why they exist.

BS. Guns have caused way more harm than good for decades in the modern world. Step away from the muskets Fred.

Putting Muslims in your rebuttal shines a weird light on you. I live in California. I own a gun. STFU.

DwnWthVwls 02-24-2017 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1808716)
It absolutely should be a right. Its already become a travesty in California for the wait periods and background checks involved. You might as well be muslim entering the country at this time for comparisons. I think millions of people for many milleniums have demonstrated how guns can protect you, thats pretty much why they exist.

I'm not arguing it hasn't been demonstrated. I'm arguing it should be demonstrated on an individual basis. We will have to agree to disagree on your opening statement.

How about this, I'll reduce my stance to: Owning a gun should be a right if it is necessary for protection, but it should not be the right for anyone to get one because they like guns.


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