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FRED HALE SR. 02-24-2017 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy (Post 1808734)
btw im just playing devil's advocate here, im not trying to defend mr texas' right to own an AR-15.

I think you have to also take into account that those numbers are inflated due to the average joes ability to own a handgun as opposed to a high power rifle. Also, i'm guessing that those numbers are also inflated by illegal weaponry that has not been registered.

FRED HALE SR. 02-24-2017 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1808735)
I hate to break this to you but you're far more likely to shoot yourself or get yourself killed in a shootout than you are ever to stop a break in

There are lots of stats on this

Guns do not make you safer the only real reason to own one is if you just like guns

I'll take a wait and see approach on that and get back to you. Guns certainly do make me safer, and will continue to do so.

Frownland 02-24-2017 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1808736)
That can't be your only argument though. People can do just as much damage driving a car into a huge crowd of people. I'm sure there are other examples where this concept also applies but I can't think of one atm.

Cars have purposes beyond plowing people down. Can you think of a non-lethal purpose for a gun?

elphenor 02-24-2017 04:05 PM

Right but you prob need a car right

There's no reason you should have a collection of pipe bombs

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-24-2017 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1808737)
I think you have to also take into account that those numbers are inflated due to the average joes ability to own a handgun as opposed to a high power rifle. Also, i'm guessing that those numbers are also inflated by illegal weaponry that has not been registered.

very true. i just think it's a cop out acting like getting rid of assault riffles will eliminate many gun related deaths. as DWV mentiones, its not like there arent other methods of mass killing/high damage.

FRED HALE SR. 02-24-2017 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1808739)
Cars have purposes beyond plowing people down. Can you think of a non-lethal purpose for a gun?

Target shooting/heirlooms for collecting/hunting/

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 02-24-2017 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1808739)
Cars have purposes beyond plowing people down. Can you think of a non-lethal purpose for a gun?

getting through the line at the groccery store faster

DwnWthVwls 02-24-2017 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1808739)
Cars have purposes beyond plowing people down. Can you think of a non-lethal purpose for a gun?

Yes, fun. It's the reason most people want guns.

elphenor 02-24-2017 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1808738)
I'll take a wait and see approach on that and get back to you. Guns certainly do make me safer, and will continue to do so.

Lol

I'd pull up the numbers for you but I get the feeling you're going to believe this no matter what

The Batlord 02-24-2017 04:08 PM

Honestly I'd rather not live in a society that decides its citizens' rights by pie charts and statistics. Guns may be more likely to kill you or a family member, but I'd rather live in a permissive society that gave me the option of defending myself as I see fit, within reason, than one that micromanages what I can and cannot do.


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