sleepy jack

Yeah that ****sucker was also responsible for some of the Beatles best music.

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amnesiac is not mediocre.

my top 5 overrated

5. metallica
4. michael angelo batio
3. oasis
2. nirvana
1. muse

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Son of JayJamJah

You might be right, it could actually be sub-standard not mediocre. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I can not be convinced that album is not 10 steps backward after Kid A and Ok PC. I never listen to it anymore, meanwhile the rest of the discography stays in rotation.

Rainard Jalen

Problem is, coming from you that doesn't really mean all that much, seeming as you posted elsewhere that the "worst artists of all time" are all artists aside from Radiohead...so yeah, I think we see where you're coming from...

lucifer_sam

Never even heard of him. He's overrated? Quick wikipedia...

Oh, so he's like some guitarist that's never actually produced real music. Makes sense...

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People who hate him tend to look to much at his public persona and not at his music. He uses great samples and makes them his own. Sampling good songs is not lazy and he makes his own raps to them. if you had ever heard his Young Folks rap maybe you would agree. He IS the greatest rapper alive and personally he is the only rapper whose albums I have been able to listen to all the way through without skipping a track (Dropout and Graduation, Late Registration had a few filler tracks.) He doesn't just try to rap fast, he even occasionally sings. In concert he will sing a lot of the lyrics he doesn't sing on the albums and the guy can totally own an entire crowd. The only reason people jump on the hate wagon now is because of Bonnaroo ( a commercial venue I would never frequent btw) and how he basically got bluefalconed by Robert Randolph (a talentless DMB wannabe) and the event coordinator (as well as Pearl Jam, the worthless of the worthless band).

Piss Me Off

My problem with his persona is that he genuinely thinks he's God's answer to hip-hop or something, and if you're going to be like that i think you should back that up with your music.
His formula is dull. What he does is take a famous sample like with Daft Punk and Curtis Mayfield that people will recognise and rap over it with the whole uplifiting lyrics spiel. Everyone knows the Move On Up tune so it sells. He's a clever businessmen but thats it.
I have to admit if i was a fan i'd probably enjoy the live shows, he seems to at least have some passion there but on record it's just not there.

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almauro

I'd put REM at the top of the list.

Urban Hat€monger ?

I'll give you my thoughts of your list (Including Van Halen)

21. Van Halen - I do find a delicious irony in the fact that everybody kisses Eddie Van Halens ass about how great a guitarist he is yet as soon as the guy who can't even hold a tune leaves the band they turn to shit.
A perfect example as to why all these people who go on & on & on about the 'Technicality' of the guitarist are talking out of their asses.

20. Radiohead - A couple of years ago I would have said you were insane. Now i'd agree with you. I think it's obvious (to me anyway) Radiohead are on the slide. I'm not saying they're bad , far from it. I just think the last couple of albums have been average. I think they've become predictable which is always a bad thing when your known for taking risks. I know thousands will disagree but I think sometime over the next couple of albums they're going to release an absolute stinker of a record.

19. The Grateful Dead - Never heard a single song by them

18. Snoop Dogg - I see him as a celebrity more than anything. I don't think I can remember a single song by him.

17. Coldplay - Don't even get me started on this bunch of whinging public schoolboy bores.

16. The Doors - Solid band but Morrison gets far too much credit

15. The Eagles - URGH! 70s soft rock , My idea of rock n roll hell

14. Garth Brooks - File under nobody outside the U.S. gives a flying fuck

13. John Lennon(post-Beatles) - Don't really know enough to comment other than a couple of singles. He did Fame with David Bowie , that was alright.

12. Eminem - Churning out the same old shit since the late 90s. the AC/DC of hip hop.

11. Kanye West - Typical MTV pop rapper they all sound the same to me.

10. The Rolling Stones - Done with this subject.

9. Nirvana - I'm no Nirvana lover but to put them in the same bracket as shitty bland no hopers like Alice In Chains is just cruel.

8. 2 PAC - I liked a couple of singles of course the hero worship now he's dead is annoying but he did pave the way for a lot of artists. Shame most of them were crap though.

7. Kiss - I love it how people slag off Kiss and then say they like the New York Dolls. I'm going to be contoversial now and say I loved their disco period.
You're right though , couldn't care less about them now.

6. Dave Matthews Band - See 14

5. White Stripes - What's wrong with having simple riffs? How come nobody slags off Muddy Waters or Bo Diddley for the same reason?

4. Prince - Sounding timeless is a good thing as far as i'm concerned. He's released some real dross but he also made some of the best pop records ever. I think he's more than worthy of the credit he gets.

3. Bruce Springsteen - I've never been a fan of Americana or whatever it's called. Give me some blues or soul over this any day .

2. U2 - Should be number one

#1!!!!!!!!! Mariah Carey - What's the point in having a great voice if you sing mindless dross. Mind you it was kinda funny when she went mental. Wouldn't put her as number one because I can't actually remember anyone rating her , And I just ignore her anyway.

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I will reply to this two issues quickly without discussing the bands in question as not to spoil future posts. But...I think nobody criticizes Muddy or Bo mostly because they get the innovator pass, something you can't give the Stripes, but that's more a punch line then the crux of my argument.

And I was being sarcastic about Prince his 80's stuff sounds so cheesy and dated to me, as much as I respect the diversity of your musical taste, this one blows my mind, it could be a fun debate when the time comes.