The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (rock, myspace, song, Hang)

~~Rabid Sea Turtles~~ · 07-26-2006, 01:26 AM

You can spout that all you want.
Fact is, Israel illegally occupied Lebanon.

Doesn't matter much if it belonged to Israel 2000 years ago.
Now it belongs to Lebanon, and they need to get the f*ck out.

Juggalo4life88 · 07-26-2006, 01:46 AM

No, Lebanon, needs to gt over it and admit that they are no longer the nation that they thought that they were, afterall, their military has dissolved and Israel should take over and take back the land that was stolen frorm them. I understand that Lebanon is a nation that wants to keep it's territory, but it's not their decision to stay there. It's God's. And in their due time, Israel will reclaim their place in the world as strongest nation. As much as I hate to admit it, this country will fall from it's place of high superiority, and will have to have Israel defend us, it's been prophecied. Say what you want about Israel, but just remember that Hitler tried to take out the Jews and God kept them alive. Israel should've never waited this long to start their defense strategies. And besides that, almost all nations and people like you that hate Israel, Jews, and Christians will deny that Israel has a right to what they are doing. And you never did answer my question on Purim. Israel is only doing to it's enemies what they have done to them for years.

cardboard adolescent · 07-26-2006, 01:49 AM

Have you ever heard of separation of church and state? You should look into it. It's an ideal that most "freedom-lovin'" countries are founded on... unlike, say, Iran.

~~Rabid Sea Turtles~~ · 07-26-2006, 01:50 AM

No, you've got it all wrong.
It is their decision to stay there. It's their land, not Israel's you thick headed moron.
God doesn't have a thing to do with it. Lebanon isn't going to give their land over to an oppresive nation because, according to you they "aren't the same as the used to be"
As far as your "God kept the Jews alive" comment, I am not sure what books you have been reading, but over 6 Million Jews died during the holocaust, the largest extermination of a specific group of people in history.

Juggalo4life88 · 07-26-2006, 01:59 AM

Listen moron, I meant that the Jews are still hee and are not about to disappear. Lebanon is a crap ass country that needs to be dealt with along with Iran, North Korea, and the group Hezbollah. Israel will one day have it's land back and there is nothing you can do about it. And no it is not Lebanon's decision to stay there, because they can't even back their own decisions with the ability to enforce it. Their military is gone......wiped out, no longer existent. And the way things sound, you need to learn about the nation before you go spouting off about how you don't like them. You hate them....big deal. Israel could care less, as do I. But then again you still don't want to answer any questions I ask you which I take to believe you only know a few facts about this subject. Like i said before, long live Israel, and our omnipetent God!!!!!!I love getting you upset over something you have no control over. I think i should join Israel's army, yeah, that sounds good. I could help take out Hezbollah, and any other nation that stands in Israel's way of security.

tdoc210 · 07-26-2006, 04:47 AM

K This topic fucking sucks now, fuck war's not called for ever K get it, end of discussion, This is fucking ridiculous, you feckers who think war is fun or population contol go fuck yourselves. Fucking close this, I'm sick of it, it was a bad fucking idea

tdoc210 · 07-26-2006, 04:49 AM

Oh and I ****ing hate isreal for instigating this, ****, it wan't theirs to start of. Jesus ****ing Christ.

Barnard17 · 07-26-2006, 06:41 AM

Juggalo, you're an arrogant, sick fuck.

The land now Palestine and Israel was Israel almost 2000 years ago. The Palestinians who live there now are more closely related, genetically speaking, to the people who lived in historical Israel. As for Israel being totally innocent in all this, maybe you should look back through the thread and read a bit. Educate yourself before you run around looking like even more of an idiot.

Raine · 07-26-2006, 06:44 AM

Either way it shouldn't matter whose land it was 2000 years ago.

Unless you're trying to learn from the past it's useless to bring it up since right now I doubt America cares to know that info, especially when there's bombings and mass casualities occurring.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 07-26-2006, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Juggalo4life88

I'm all for Israel. Yes, it says in the Bible that God will reinstate the nation of Israel, and they can not be condemned for how it came about. How do you think God was going to do it? Well, in order for the end times chain of events to take place, Israel has to be formed again, not when Jesus returns. That would make no sense and have no purpose. And everyone condemns Israel for attacking Lebanon and Hezbollah, yet since they regained their territory, they have been car bombed, slaughtered, and just wrongly attacked. And when they finally fight back, they are considered "Evil"? What about the violence the muslims have shown time and time again? And what seems humorous is, the rockets that struck Nazareth, which is comprised mostly muslim Israelies, killed two young children. Now, why is it that Hezbollah can't even hit the Jews? Because it seems that their time of punishment is almost over. Israel diserves to recieve it's land back, no matter what the middle easterners want to do about it. It wasn't their's to begin with, it was Israel's. In the end, any nation, no matter it's military status, that has tried to destroy Israel will be obliterated, and in my opinion, the United States will not see as much terror from this in the end, because I believe that the United States will be protected to a degree for our efforts in helping Israel. This country was founded as a place to live in peace to serve God, and we are Israel's sister nation, in a sense. Israel, despite the thoughts of the world right now, will never be obliterated and taken from the face of the Earth again. And Hezbollah, Iran, and anyother nation that goes against them should catch Hell from this. Long live Israel, and our Omnipitent God.

Didn`t God also say Love Thy Neighbour , or did I imagine that bit ?

So much hate from someone who claims to be so spiritual.

07-26-2006, 01:46 AM	#1722 (permalink)
Juggalo4life88 I'm a ****er ain't I.lol Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bad Axe, MI Posts: 122	No, Lebanon, needs to gt over it and admit that they are no longer the nation that they thought that they were, afterall, their military has dissolved and Israel should take over and take back the land that was stolen frorm them. I understand that Lebanon is a nation that wants to keep it's territory, but it's not their decision to stay there. It's God's. And in their due time, Israel will reclaim their place in the world as strongest nation. As much as I hate to admit it, this country will fall from it's place of high superiority, and will have to have Israel defend us, it's been prophecied. Say what you want about Israel, but just remember that Hitler tried to take out the Jews and God kept them alive. Israel should've never waited this long to start their defense strategies. And besides that, almost all nations and people like you that hate Israel, Jews, and Christians will deny that Israel has a right to what they are doing. And you never did answer my question on Purim. Israel is only doing to it's enemies what they have done to them for years. __________________ Ladies and gentlemen come here, major greeting Your keeper of wickedry, the path to shangrila Is missled by he, missled by you He is of your negativity, he is of your hate Meet the other half of the jugglin duo That is your soul The amazing jack jeckel!!!! Jeckel another j catch one more Theyll try and catch all thats instore for you How many souls will fall from the sky? How many souls burned wonderin why?

07-26-2006, 01:59 AM	#1725 (permalink)
Juggalo4life88 I'm a ****er ain't I.lol Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bad Axe, MI Posts: 122	Listen moron, I meant that the Jews are still hee and are not about to disappear. Lebanon is a crap ass country that needs to be dealt with along with Iran, North Korea, and the group Hezbollah. Israel will one day have it's land back and there is nothing you can do about it. And no it is not Lebanon's decision to stay there, because they can't even back their own decisions with the ability to enforce it. Their military is gone......wiped out, no longer existent. And the way things sound, you need to learn about the nation before you go spouting off about how you don't like them. You hate them....big deal. Israel could care less, as do I. But then again you still don't want to answer any questions I ask you which I take to believe you only know a few facts about this subject. Like i said before, long live Israel, and our omnipetent God!!!!!!I love getting you upset over something you have no control over. I think i should join Israel's army, yeah, that sounds good. I could help take out Hezbollah, and any other nation that stands in Israel's way of security. __________________ Ladies and gentlemen come here, major greeting Your keeper of wickedry, the path to shangrila Is missled by he, missled by you He is of your negativity, he is of your hate Meet the other half of the jugglin duo That is your soul The amazing jack jeckel!!!! Jeckel another j catch one more Theyll try and catch all thats instore for you How many souls will fall from the sky? How many souls burned wonderin why?

07-26-2006, 04:47 AM	#1726 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	K This topic fucking sucks now, fuck war's not called for ever K get it, end of discussion, This is fucking ridiculous, you feckers who think war is fun or population contol go fuck yourselves. Fucking close this, I'm sick of it, it was a bad fucking idea __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

07-26-2006, 04:49 AM	#1727 (permalink)
tdoc210 ashes against the grain Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new hampsha Posts: 2,617	Oh and I **ing hate isreal for instigating this, , it wan't theirs to start of. Jesus **ing Christ. __________________ We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that.

07-26-2006, 06:41 AM	#1728 (permalink)
Barnard17 My home? Discabled, Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 204	Juggalo, you're an arrogant, sick fuck. The land now Palestine and Israel was Israel almost 2000 years ago. The Palestinians who live there now are more closely related, genetically speaking, to the people who lived in historical Israel. As for Israel being totally innocent in all this, maybe you should look back through the thread and read a bit. Educate yourself before you run around looking like even more of an idiot. __________________ Vita brevis, Occasio praeceps

07-26-2006, 01:26 AM	#1721 (permalink)
~~Rabid Sea Turtles~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In the sea... Posts: 252	You can spout that all you want. Fact is, Israel illegally occupied Lebanon. Doesn't matter much if it belonged to Israel 2000 years ago. Now it belongs to Lebanon, and they need to get the f*ck out.

07-26-2006, 01:49 AM	#1723 (permalink)
cardboard adolescent ;) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Posts: 3,503	Have you ever heard of separation of church and state? You should look into it. It's an ideal that most "freedom-lovin'" countries are founded on... unlike, say, Iran.

07-26-2006, 01:50 AM	#1724 (permalink)
~~Rabid Sea Turtles~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In the sea... Posts: 252	No, you've got it all wrong. It is their decision to stay there. It's their land, not Israel's you thick headed moron. God doesn't have a thing to do with it. Lebanon isn't going to give their land over to an oppresive nation because, according to you they "aren't the same as the used to be" As far as your "God kept the Jews alive" comment, I am not sure what books you have been reading, but over 6 Million Jews died during the holocaust, the largest extermination of a specific group of people in history.

07-26-2006, 06:44 AM	#1729 (permalink)
Raine Full-Time Hellion Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: PA Posts: 1,531	Either way it shouldn't matter whose land it was 2000 years ago. Unless you're trying to learn from the past it's useless to bring it up since right now I doubt America cares to know that info, especially when there's bombings and mass casualities occurring. __________________ A pair of powerful spectacles has sometimes sufficed to cure a person in love. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche