The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (effects, quote, Lute, Hang)

[Cheese]

Originally Posted by half_baked87

wow, where do i start. first off all, IamAlejo doesnt have to be a republican. sounds more like the republicans are too liberal for him. and second,



what the **** is that supposed to mean, "someone" who? who the hell has the right to say i'm going to take charge and clean up the world. thats what hitler and stalin tried to do. make everyone equal and the same, exterminate any loose ends. and thats called genocide. i'd like to think the human race has learned from its mistake but this turd is a perfect example of how ignorant we still are. im not saying i know how to fix all our problems, but capital punishment is NOT the way. what does it accomplish? no matter how many you kill theres always going to be another murderer, another rapist, and since some of you seem to be complete hardasses, thiefs and drug traffickers etc. and since we're for punishing drug traffickers and theives, how about some punishment of a government that mislead its people, and this applies both in the US and canada. why don't we lynch a few of them they fabricated crucial information, accepted dirty money (canada), and cost human lives. how come theres no call for them to be executed? its really sad that the majority of people dont look at the whole picture. that being said, theres a big difference between a guy on the street who has to sell whatever drugs to stay alive, and a loaded drug kingpin. i am in no way against imprisoning and rehabiliting drug addicts, traffickers, theives, the whole bit. and really, theres worse crimes than someone stealing a ****ing car. no one should die for stealing anything, a persons life doesn't have monetary value. we're all guilty of one thing, being human, so lets act like it and cut the bull****.
now, i'm going to get drunk,

Obviously you've never put in all your hard graft for something only for some f*cktard to pinch it for their own greedy sake more often than not to make a quick dollar so they can support their drug habit.

I'm also guilty of being human, but that doesn't include stealing,raping,drug trafficking etc...That sh1T isn't human, it's f*cking animal.

Just one more thing to ponder.This guy who was hanged,suppose he didn't get caught,moved to your neighbourhood and your kids...lets say you had two(you might have it doesn't matter) and this guy gives them some of his stuff.
How would that make you feel...eh?

Think about the flow on effects from these dreggs

PS Getting drunk is really going solve your problems isn't it F*ckwad

[half_baked87]

yeah i've had things stolen from me, multiple times. but im sure it wasnt so somone could support their drug habit, its because people are ****s. it happens. it is human, as is murder, rape. animals don't rape each other, they dont have sex for pleasure. and how many animals do you know selling smack in you're neighbourhood? besides, human beings ARE animals. we just happen to gifted with reason, so lets ****ing use it. and theres something to be said here for PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY! if my kids got a hold of some smack, i'd blame my ****ing kids for beign such idiots, and then myself for not educating them enough, then the dealer. im not agrueing he should go to jail, but death? for a pound of herione? thats ridiculous. thats why we need to make sure people are educated, you have to put something in to get something back, not just make an example of a few people. it doesnt scare criminals, their not afraid to die, their most likely risking their lives every day if they're involved in something that could make them eligible for the death penalty.

[Cheese]

You should cange your name to halfwit87.You didn't read that properly at all!
Cats rape one another as do dogs, they are not people are they? To you they might be ,but not me.

So you would sooner have people in prison, putting ever increasing strain on a countries economy while they are (sometimes) better off e.g three meals a day and a roof over their heads.

A lot who go inside will reoffend so by ridding society of these leeches the cycle can be stopped

[Spikey]

Originally Posted by half_baked87

yeah i've had things stolen from me, multiple times. but im sure it wasnt so somone could support their drug habit, its because people are ****s. it happens. it is human, as is murder, rape. animals don't rape each other, they dont have sex for pleasure. and how many animals do you know selling smack in you're neighbourhood? besides, human beings ARE animals. we just happen to gifted with reason, so lets ****ing use it. and theres something to be said here for PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY! if my kids got a hold of some smack, i'd blame my ****ing kids for beign such idiots, and then myself for not educating them enough, then the dealer. im not agrueing he should go to jail, but death? for a pound of herione? thats ridiculous. thats why we need to make sure people are educated, you have to put something in to get something back, not just make an example of a few people. it doesnt scare criminals, their not afraid to die, their most likely risking their lives every day if they're involved in something that could make them eligible for the death penalty.

You should blame yourself for letting someone like that in your neighbourhood. Not your Kids. My opinion is:

Kill the people you are sure commited the crime, if you are ABSOLUTELY sure then they should die. If someone hurt my sister's then god be my witness..
Humans are NOT animals..Do you know a dolphin that does maths? Or a frog that reads Shakespear? Has any animal built a car?

[Merkaba]

Originally Posted by half_baked87

what the **** is that supposed to mean, "someone" who? who the hell has the right to say i'm going to take charge and clean up the world. thats what hitler and stalin tried to do. make everyone equal and the same, exterminate any loose ends. and thats called genocide. i'd like to think the human race has learned from its mistake but this turd is a perfect example of how ignorant we still are. im not saying i know how to fix all our problems, but capital punishment is NOT the way. what does it accomplish? no matter how many you kill theres always going to be another murderer, another rapist, and since some of you seem to be complete hardasses, thiefs and drug traffickers etc. and since we're for punishing drug traffickers and theives, how about some punishment of a government that mislead its people, and this applies both in the US and canada. why don't we lynch a few of them they fabricated crucial information, acepted dirty money (canada), and cost human lives. how come theres no call for them to be executed? its really sad that the majority of people dont look at the whole picture. that being said, theres a big difference between a guy on the street who has to sell whatever drugs to stay alive, and a loaded drug kingpin. i am in no way against imprisoning and rehabiliting drug addicts, traffickers, theives, the whole bit. and really, theres worse crimes than someone stealing a ****ing car. no one should die for stealing anything, a persons life doesn't have monetary value. we're all guilty of one thing, being human, so lets act like it and cut the bull****.
now, i'm going to get drunk,

Man, I've read some shit in my lifetime. That came down the road of craptacular, turned right at retard's roundabout and went up the road to nowhere.

I see your trying to say the death penalty isn't just but what a meal you've made of it. People need to be punished. While no one person should dictate another persons life, it sure as hell sends a strong message out. It's like parenting. If you buy your kids cellphones and cook them their favourite dinners evernight, they're sooner or later going to realise they can have it their way all the time. If you don't lay down the law, people are just going to capitilise on it. It's human nature to try and beat the system. So when you've got smugglers and trafficers out there, they need to know the risks will be fatal, so best play hardball right?

As cheeseman said, you have to think about the flow on effects. They are always worse than the actual crime. And did you just say your kids would be the idiots? If you had a daughter and she was seduced and raped you would call it her fault for having a vagina?

Christ man wake up and smell the flowers. I don't like to see people dying as much as the next, and even for the smallest of offences by comparrison, but think about it...If that guy was a major player in a drug ring when a deal goes bad, there would be more then one person dying wouldn't there. I'm not saying it would have happened, but if it had, killing the guy now as a warning and punishment, would be more effective then letting it boil over where the government has no control.

It's all good and bad. Positive and negative lights to look at it from. I say no to the killings for such and such, but say yes for such and such also.

[Cheese]

I cannot believe you are agreeing with me. I thought I was going to get shot down in flames over my statements.

I salute you sir.

[Spikey]

Originally Posted by cheeseman

I cannot believe you are agreeing with me. I thought I was going to get shot down in flames over my statements.

I salute you sir.

I salute you sir.
What you say is true and he is overlooking the "flow" that would happen. I agree with you too.

[adidasss]

Originally Posted by Merkaba

Man, I've read some shit in my lifetime. That came down the road of craptacular, turned right at retard's roundabout and went up the road to nowhere.

I see your trying to say the death penalty isn't just but what a meal you've made of it. People need to be punished. While no one person should dictate another persons life, it sure as hell sends a strong message out. It's like parenting. If you buy your kids cellphones and cook them their favourite dinners evernight, they're sooner or later going to realise they can have it their way all the time. If you don't lay down the law, people are just going to capitilise on it. It's human nature to try and beat the system. So when you've got smugglers and trafficers out there, they need to know the risks will be fatal, so best play hardball right?

As cheeseman said, you have to think about the flow on effects. They are always worse than the actual crime. And did you just say your kids would be the idiots? If you had a daughter and she was seduced and raped you would call it her fault for having a vagina?

Christ man wake up and smell the flowers. I don't like to see people dying as much as the next, and even for the smallest of offences by comparrison, but think about it...If that guy was a major player in a drug ring when a deal goes bad, there would be more then one person dying wouldn't there. I'm not saying it would have happened, but if it had, killing the guy now as a warning and punishment, would be more effective then letting it boil over where the government has no control.

It's all good and bad. Positive and negative lights to look at it from. I say no to the killings for such and such, but say yes for such and such also.

i agree with half_baked, nothing, absolutely nothing justifies a death penalty, besides, there are worse things you could do to a man than killing him, personally, i think locking someone in a 2 by 2 cell for the rest of their lives is far worse. and take into consideration that sometimes, people are wrongly accused, for argument sake, let's imagine you were that australian guy and let's say those drugs were planted on you, how would you feel? you're going to die and you had nothing to do with it. lovely jubbly ey? mistakes are bound to happen. and half_baked was only talking about drug abuse, you're damn right i would blame my kids for buying the drugs, unlike rape and other crimes, i'ts a personal choice, personally, i would never blame the drug dealer, it's either your fault for not educating your kids or your kids fault for being stupid dumbasses. and you don't seriously believe that the death penalty serves as a deterrent? people commit murder in a abnormal state of conciousness, you don't seriously believe they stop and think about how they're going to be punished for killing someone. and i would really like to know cheeseman, could you be the one doing the executing?

[Spikey]

Originally Posted by adidasss

i agree with half_baked, nothing, absolutely nothing justifies a death penalty, besides, there are worse things you could do to a man than killing him, personally, i think locking someone in a 2 by 2 cell for the rest of their lives is far worse. and take into consideration that sometimes, people are wrongly accused, for argument sake, let's imagine you were that australian guy and let's say those drugs were planted on you, how would you feel? you're going to die and you had nothing to do with it. lovely jubbly ey? mistakes are bound to happen. and half_baked was only talking about drug abuse, you're damn right i would blame my kids for buying the drugs, unlike rape and other crimes, i'ts a personal choice, personally, i would never blame the drug dealer, it's either your fault for not educating your kids or your kids fault for being stupid dumbasses. and you don't seriously believe that the death penalty serves as a deterrent? people commit murder in a abnormal state of conciousness, you don't seriously believe they stop and think about how they're going to be punished for killing someone. and i would really like to know cheeseman, could you be the one doing the executing?

If I found the fu**er, I would torture and kill him. So yes is my answer. I think prison is a soft punishment..The jails are filling up. IF THEY HAVE COMMITED THE CRIME AND IT IS CLEAR THEY HAVE DONE IT: The DEATH penalty is what is needed! I am talking about if someone i.e man a kills man b then man a should get the death penatly, now you tell me Adidass what drug runner or worker has not killed? Would you want your kids in the same neighbourhood? It is MY FAULT if my kids get the drugs..It is MY FAULT if that drug worker is our neighbourhood and I do nothing about it. And I will make it MY RESPONSIBLITLY to do away with him.

[Cheese]

Originally Posted by adidasss

i agree with half_baked, nothing, absolutely nothing justifies a death penalty, besides, there are worse things you could do to a man than killing him, personally, i think locking someone in a 2 by 2 cell for the rest of their lives is far worse. and take into consideration that sometimes, people are wrongly accused, for argument sake, let's imagine you were that australian guy and let's say those drugs were planted on you, how would you feel? you're going to die and you had nothing to do with it. lovely jubbly ey? mistakes are bound to happen. and half_baked was only talking about drug abuse, you're damn right i would blame my kids for buying the drugs, unlike rape and other crimes, i'ts a personal choice, personally, i would never blame the drug dealer, it's either your fault for not educating your kids or your kids fault for being stupid dumbasses. and you don't seriously believe that the death penalty serves as a deterrent? people commit murder in a abnormal state of conciousness, you don't seriously believe they stop and think about how they're going to be punished for killing someone. and i would really like to know cheeseman, could you be the one doing the executing?

Yes! Yes I could.
I'd like nothing more than to be the last face these c*nts see before they dangle off a short rope