The Official Religious/Political Debate Thread (single, exploited, American, effect)

hookers with machineguns · 03-14-2005, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by All_Nite_Dinah

Punk Rawk DOOD!

I feel a plague of poorly thought out political threads coming....

Does everything have to be "punk rawk" to you? I never said anything about being punk, you label-obsessed f*ck!

maybe I should make threads about popularity contests and advice on women. Would that get you off?

I feel a plague of ignorance and apathy....

Tommyrocker · 03-14-2005, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay

this thread is actually very thought out. we need to face the fact that not every country has the same quality of life that we do. the harsh reality is that in other parts of the world, rape, murder, and child prostitution are common place. just be thankful that we(I) live in the good ol' USA.

Yeah, cause in the Vietnam and Iraqi wars American soldiers didnt touch the innocent citizens. I don't care if this brings on an onslaught of patriotism from Yanks, its not my opinion, its fact.

Anarchy doll · 03-14-2005, 07:46 PM

very well thought out and well said Hookers, I never knew all the fact, but now that you put it out there, I will definately fight the good fight and look into some of this injustist! I have a patch on my jacket"women fight Facism!" now, I need to stand up to that promotion and rally or protest or something.....or maybe go and save one of those children and show them the way life is when you are free......if only we could do that for all of them....so sad....

All_Nite_Dinah · 03-14-2005, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hookers with machineguns

Does everything have to be "punk rawk" to you? I never said anything about being punk, you label-obsessed f*ck!

maybe I should make threads about popularity contests and advice on women. Would that get you off?

I feel a plague of ignorance and apathy....

Acctualy im just sick and tired of these overgeneralized unorginized jumbles. Stufff like down with the government or the UN means nothing. Yes I agree with the fact that its ****ty that the United Nations has baisically been a defunct orginization for the past 20 years and has done very little if anything to stop coflicts or aid third world contries. But thrue apathy is just bitching about it on a message board. Civil rights are abused around the world every day. Not just in the congo recently. Places like Rawanda, Iraq, Finland, nepal, Indonishiaand right in your own backyard where pedaphiles and rapists walk the streets. But what does the American public say? "O to bad for them, thnk god Im an American!" Not a dime is contributed to the red cross or unicef or feed the children. Not a stone is thrown or a bottle broken. Dissent has become mundan discussion over blood and oil. No paint is sprayed and no thought excerted. The "revolutionaries" wear there bandanas and drink while protests are orginized. People read there zines but dont inform others of what they learn and when they do it they do it in the most condiscending sarcastic manner they can. Political action and civil disobedience had become nothing more than a trend for the majority of people. Its cool to say **** the system and spray paint under a bridge but its not cool to attend town hall meatings or campaign for a canidate.

What im trying to say is I've had some very discouraging run ins with so called political mind recently and have grown vey skepticle.

All_Nite_Dinah · 03-14-2005, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Anarchy doll

very well thought out and well said Hookers, I never knew all the fact, but now that you put it out there, I will definately fight the good fight and look into some of this injustist! I have a patch on my jacket"women fight Facism!" now, I need to stand up to that promotion and rally or protest or something.....or maybe go and save one of those children and show them the way life is when you are free......if only we could do that for all of them....so sad....

So you hink your free? Kids still get raped in America on a daily basis. I've know more than a few girls in my life who have been molested or taken advantage of by complete strangers or people they thought they could trust. Rape is more common in the U.S. than mostpeople think and it makes me sick when hordes of people protest Michael Jackson when there very neighbor could be getting molested at the same time. I agree maybe its time you start living up to your patches..

All_Nite_Dinah · 03-14-2005, 09:05 PM

That should get this thread shaking for a while

hookers with machineguns · 03-14-2005, 09:31 PM

I could have easily "bitched", as you would put it, about a broader scope of civil rights. However, my focus here is on the incompetence and corruption of the U.N. It appears the people that posted here were mainly concerned with the pedophilia and abuse of young women. As you know, that in itself could have easily been the main topic here. Like I implied just earlier, my motives are not purely political or purely ethical; the bottom line is the UN and its laundry list of unsolved global issues.
Think what you will, but the civil rights issues you speak of are more "overgeneralized unorganized jumble" than my "bitching" on the specific topic of the United Nations and its incompetence.
What I don't quite understand is your interpretation of my original post and linking it to following an anti-government conformity. You characterize my non-politically driven opinion as some sort of "trend" of cliche civil disobedience. I understand your skepticism, because I feel the same way. But the fact that you think I made this thread to look cool shows a lot about your cynicism; it's not healthy. Not everyone is motivated by trends or anti-trends. Believe it or not, people actually have opinions and live with it. Don't bundle people into groups without accepting individuality does actually exist.

hookers with machineguns · 03-14-2005, 09:44 PM

FYI, I don't participate in campaigns or town hall meetings. I don't contribute money to Unicef or Red Cross or Feed The Children. Like most American citizens, I have grown skeptical of political campaigns and nonprofit organizations, because of rare, isolated (but well exploited) incidents of scandal. Dont blame me, blame media and Hollywood for negatively portraying the process I take advantage of everyday. However, I don't participate in protests or childish variations of civil disobedience neither. To me, government is not something to hate or love, it's something that is unfortunately necessary because of the limits of human decency. Anarchy is not plausible, that's obvious (at least to me). I am quite interested in politics, as an observer not as a participant. Is it crazy to think that people are entitled to form opinions about such politics? Nothing says we all have to agree. And, nothing says we have to do anything about it.

dog · 03-15-2005, 04:58 AM

great point, great fukn point.

SwitchFootRocks! · 03-15-2005, 06:01 AM

hookers im not say that what you are saying is not true, but where did you get your information?

03-14-2005, 09:05 PM	#586 (permalink)
All_Nite_Dinah Not Impressed Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 741	That should get this thread shaking for a while __________________ If I cant dance I dont want to be part of your revolution. DEATH TO FALSE DUDES!

03-14-2005, 09:31 PM	#587 (permalink)
hookers with machineguns Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,753	I could have easily "bitched", as you would put it, about a broader scope of civil rights. However, my focus here is on the incompetence and corruption of the U.N. It appears the people that posted here were mainly concerned with the pedophilia and abuse of young women. As you know, that in itself could have easily been the main topic here. Like I implied just earlier, my motives are not purely political or purely ethical; the bottom line is the UN and its laundry list of unsolved global issues. Think what you will, but the civil rights issues you speak of are more "overgeneralized unorganized jumble" than my "bitching" on the specific topic of the United Nations and its incompetence. What I don't quite understand is your interpretation of my original post and linking it to following an anti-government conformity. You characterize my non-politically driven opinion as some sort of "trend" of cliche civil disobedience. I understand your skepticism, because I feel the same way. But the fact that you think I made this thread to look cool shows a lot about your cynicism; it's not healthy. Not everyone is motivated by trends or anti-trends. Believe it or not, people actually have opinions and live with it. Don't bundle people into groups without accepting individuality does actually exist. __________________ LASTFM

03-14-2005, 09:44 PM	#588 (permalink)
hookers with machineguns Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,753	FYI, I don't participate in campaigns or town hall meetings. I don't contribute money to Unicef or Red Cross or Feed The Children. Like most American citizens, I have grown skeptical of political campaigns and nonprofit organizations, because of rare, isolated (but well exploited) incidents of scandal. Dont blame me, blame media and Hollywood for negatively portraying the process I take advantage of everyday. However, I don't participate in protests or childish variations of civil disobedience neither. To me, government is not something to hate or love, it's something that is unfortunately necessary because of the limits of human decency. Anarchy is not plausible, that's obvious (at least to me). I am quite interested in politics, as an observer not as a participant. Is it crazy to think that people are entitled to form opinions about such politics? Nothing says we all have to agree. And, nothing says we have to do anything about it. __________________ LASTFM

03-15-2005, 04:58 AM	#589 (permalink)
dog this bird has flown Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: paris,texas Posts: 860	great point, great fukn point. __________________ formerly ledzeppelinrulz. http://theraffinkids.bandcamp.com/ music^

03-15-2005, 06:01 AM	#590 (permalink)
SwitchFootRocks! insanely insane Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: In a room with padded walls, (florida, USA) Posts: 37	hookers im not say that what you are saying is not true, but where did you get your information? __________________ Batteries not included! Why do we kill people who kill people to show that klling people is wrong? (unless its George Bush, then its fine!)

03-14-2005, 07:46 PM	#583 (permalink)
Anarchy doll punk rock mommy Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in my mind Posts: 660	very well thought out and well said Hookers, I never knew all the fact, but now that you put it out there, I will definately fight the good fight and look into some of this injustist! I have a patch on my jacket"women fight Facism!" now, I need to stand up to that promotion and rally or protest or something.....or maybe go and save one of those children and show them the way life is when you are free......if only we could do that for all of them....so sad....