The Bald Chick Thread

[boo boo]

Originally Posted by baldy1138

The interesting thing is that what we would commonly call a paraphilia or fetish does not necessarily fit the clinical definition. I'm assuming bald women turn you on, but they are not essential to your sexual function. You can get aroused by a woman with hair. And you're obviously not obsessed with female baldness to the exclusion of other things - such as the women herself and what she feels. That is where the psychiatric profession appears to draw the line, when a turn-on becomes a necessity or an overriding obsession. You and I are perfectly normal, at least in that regard.

I admit that I use the term fetish more broadly than that. I certainly don't go around getting pervy over every bald chick regardless of her actual attractiveness so I wouldn't call it an unhealthy obsession.

Still I'm pretty into it and it is my preference and it does increase sexual attractiveness for me. If I loved a girl I wouldn't care what was on he head. But I think when a partner is willing and able to make your sexual fantasies a reality I would assume that would make for a more satisfying sex life in the end, which is also an important part of a relationship.

Actually, I'm not into the virtual bald stuff. My preference is pretty much exactly the same as yours. It has to be smooth and it has to be real. Bald caps and doctored photos don't count. The virtualheadshave.com domain is more of a marketing gimmick for a wide-ranging baldness-related eCommerce and blog site. It was originally based on a joke hat, with shaving cream and a razor embroidered on it - The Virtual Headshave. I designed a novelty video game to fit the theme, but never could overcome some of the technical limitations - both mine and the game engine's. Ended up giving that away as a viral marketing tool. It's just weird enough to wind up on people's blogs and lists of unusual online products. There's a torrent of it around if you're curious.

And if you want to check out the blog, the link is in my Sig.

Yeah I've come across your site before and find your blog to be a quite entertaining and informative read that explains things better than I could. I see that you've just started this blog but do keep up the good work.

[baldy1138]

Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

I understand someone feeling concern if a partner just seems to like her/him for certain physical attributes, whether it is a bald head or shaven legs, fancy outfit, make-up, muscles, etc. If a partner liked these superficial things about me so very much, then I might start to feel that who I am as a person didn't really matter to him. I'd start to think he should just get a blow-up doll, while I go on my own merry way being my own haired self.

I think that is one area where men and women think differently. As I saw it, she had done a wonderful thing, and I was showing my appreciation.

If the roles had been reversed, and I had done something that turned her on, my thinking would have been that I had done well, she was really happy, and I was getting a lot of.... it. I'd have considered it a success, well worth the sacrifice, and taken everything entirely at face value. That is how I believe most men would reason, and I think that is because sex and love are not as entwined as they are in the female mind.

From her point of view, which I understood once she explained it, the reaction to her baldness made her feel inadequate the rest of the time. Where I'd have been happy with the attention, she wondered why it wasn't like that all the time. Because of this, I had actually been making things worse. I could see she was unhappy about something and assumed she regretted having done it. In spite of the fact that I had been wearing a shaved head for years (still do, although less shaving is required), I knew what a huge sacrifice it was for her, and I wanted her to feel good about it. I was actually going out of my way to tell her how beautiful and sexy she was, how proud I was, and so on, without any clue that I was making things worse. It really was one of those "Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus" situations.

Originally Posted by boo boo

I admit that I use the term fetish more broadly than that. I certainly don't go around getting pervy over every bald chick regardless of her actual attractiveness so I wouldn't call it an unhealthy obsession.

That's how most people use it, and there really isn't a better word. I'm just saying you wouldn't fit the clinical definition of a paraphiliac. I've just noticed that you sometimes refer to your acomophilia as though it were a psychological disorder. I don't know you at all, but it definitely doesn't sound like you have the level of obsession, dependence or objectification for any clinical diagnosis.

As you've said, it's just what you consider attractive in a woman, no different from. say, red hair or big boobs. But it is still the woman who matters most.

Another way of looking at this is that it is perfectly normal, and not that unusual for a woman to think bald men are sexy. I guarantee not one person thinks my wife is kinky because I shave my head. Our taste in women is no different, except that society tells us that long hair is beautiful and feminine, and baldness is strictly for men because typically men are the ones who lose their hair.

Even so, distinctions are often made between male pattern baldness and a man's shaved head, with the latter carrying none of the negative baggage (unfair as it is) of the former. This could certainly be extended to set aside all shaved heads from natural masculine baldness, but it still comes down to that strong connection between long hair and femininity in our society. It's kind of a narrow, outdated ideal, but it's fully entrenched.

[boo boo]

Originally Posted by baldy1138

I think that is one area where men and women think differently. As I saw it, she had done a wonderful thing, and I was showing my appreciation.

If the roles had been reversed, and I had done something that turned her on, my thinking would have been that I had done well, she was really happy, and I was getting a lot of.... it. I'd have considered it a success, well worth the sacrifice, and taken everything entirely at face value. That is how I believe most men would reason, and I think that is because sex and love are not as entwined as they are in the female mind.

From her point of view, which I understood once she explained it, the reaction to her baldness made her feel inadequate the rest of the time. Where I'd have been happy with the attention, she wondered why it wasn't like that all the time. Because of this, I had actually been making things worse. I could see she was unhappy about something and assumed she regretted having done it. In spite of the fact that I had been wearing a shaved head for years (still do, although less shaving is required), I knew what a huge sacrifice it was for her, and I wanted her to feel good about it. I was actually going out of my way to tell her how beautiful and sexy she was, how proud I was, and so on, without any clue that I was making things worse. It really was one of those "Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus" situations.

That sucks man, I guess that means she won't do it for you again?

Oh well, she deserves an A for effort. It's sad that a woman still feels unwanted even when she knows that her partner loves the way she looks. I watched a doc (not for pervy reasons) about Gail Porter once and it was really sad to see her talk down on herself all the time and how ugly she felt, even though her husband and friends kept complimenting her on how she looked without hair, she felt like it was only out of pity and still cared a lot about the opinions of strangers.

It's a shame that so many women can be so wrapped up in what society deems acceptable even when they have someone who loves them no matter what. I really don't care what people think of me I care what people I care about think of me and I can only hope that if I get a girlfriend she will feel the same way.

I don't think it's "natural" for women to be this way so much as it's how they are brought up. We teach women at a young age how important their appearance is and how important their hair is.

Our media constantly endorses hair products and tells women about all the different ways they can style their hair, you go to a salon and you read one of those hairstyle catalogs, you can find just about every hairstyle there is but never a shaved head or even a buzzcut. You can find them in men's hair catalogs of course.

And of course the media has a habit of flipping the hell out every time a woman does it. Britney Spears had a history of problems but when did people took notice? When OH NOES SHE WENT BALD! Yeah it didn't matter that she used to flash her vag around in public and endangered her kids while behind the wheel, going bald THAT was the sign that she had a problem.

Even Gail Porter who shaved her head because she had alopecia, the UK media didn't treat her much nicer, calling her a "wreck" and a "former hottie" among other things. And what kind of message does that sends to women who are NOT bald by choice? That they are physically deformed and can never be desirable because of their appearance.

It's sickening and even more so that now whenever a woman shaves her head some youtube commenter or whatever will say "lol britney wannabe" as if Britney invented headshaving, and it was more of a buzz than a real shave anyway.

Some people can't think for themselves, they have to rely on the media for their opinions.

That's how most people use it, and there really isn't a better word. I'm just saying you wouldn't fit the clinical definition of a paraphiliac. I've just noticed that you sometimes refer to your acomophilia as though it were a psychological disorder. I don't know you at all, but it definitely doesn't sound like you have the level of obsession, dependence or objectification for any clinical diagnosis.

As you've said, it's just what you consider attractive in a woman, no different from. say, red hair or big boobs. But it is still the woman who matters most.

Another way of looking at this is that it is perfectly normal, and not that unusual for a woman to think bald men are sexy. I guarantee not one person thinks my wife is kinky because I shave my head. Our taste in women is no different, except that society tells us that long hair is beautiful and feminine, and baldness is strictly for men because typically men are the ones who lose their hair.

Even so, distinctions are often made between male pattern baldness and a man's shaved head, with the latter carrying none of the negative baggage (unfair as it is) of the former. This could certainly be extended to set aside all shaved heads from natural masculine baldness, but it still comes down to that strong connection between long hair and femininity in our society. It's kind of a narrow, outdated ideal, but it's fully entrenched.

It's been an oudated ideal since the 60s when a lot of guys started sporting long hair, I no longer associate long hair with femininity even though a head of beautiful hair is still great and everything.

I've read your more recent blog entries and I strongly agree on how the lack of hair just puts extra emphasis on everything else. When a guy shaves his head yeah that is considered a very masculine look but that's because the lack of hair makes the masculine features stand out more.

I feel it works the same exact way with women, hair is another article of clothing and when you remove it you see a part of her you haven't seen before, without the hair it makes the feminine features all the more striking, it only makes her look like a dude if she looked like a dude to begin with.

Also I don't know weither this qualifies as an obsession for me or not, depends on how you define that word. But it's not just something I like, I don't have sexual fantasies about women with hair nearly as much as I do with bald women, which is what I fantasize about most of the time, I'm quite passionate about it and everyone will tell you that I talk about this topic way too damn much.

I don't think it's an unhealthy obsession but I'm into it enough that I think of it as a fetish.

And another thing, I see that it was Persis Khambatta who converted you, I tend to give Natalie Portman (even if she wasn't really bald) the credit for giving me this fascination with bald women but I remember when I was just going through puberty and watching the first Star Trek movie and being wowed by this chick and wondering why more women didn't sport this look because of how great it looked on her.

I recall that psychologists believe that fetishes and sexual preferences are usually rooted in the sexual experiences you had in childhood and with that in mind I probably owe Persis more credit than I have given her.

[baldy1138]

Originally Posted by boo boo

That sucks man, I guess that mens she won't do it for you again?

Actually, we more or less sorted that out once we figured out what the problem was. I think the main reason she hasn't done it since is the inconvenience. She has a job where she deals with a lot of fairly conservative people, so it means we can only do it on vacation, and it takes a good two or three weeks to get her grown back to the point where people aren't going to stare. Most coverups are not really practical, and to be fair, she did feel self-conscious about it. Speaking from experience, it takes a few weeks of shaving your head for a man to start feeling really comfortable with it. She would probably take longer, and that's not going to happen.

She has occasionally worn a buzz cut at times, and actually prefers the low maintenance of it. Not sure when that might happen again.

Originally Posted by boo boo

And another thing, I see that it was Persis Khambatta who converted you, I tend to give Natalie Portman (even if she wasn't really bald) the credit for giving me this fascination with bald women but I remember when I was just going through puberty and watching the first Star Trek movie and being wowed by this chick and wondering why more women didn't sport this look because of how great it looked on her.

Persis isn't as recognized as she once was, and that's a shame. In the 1980s and early 1990s, Persis was like the patron saint of acomophilia. She was a sexy bald woman who figured prominently in a major motion picture that came out at the dawn of home video. Since then, videos, both PG and porno, of female head shaving have become widely available online, and lots of celebrities have gone bald at one time or another. Plus, all the material, the photos, articles, etc., that people have gleaned from here and there over the years have spread across the web, sitting in photo galleries. When I was a teenager, there was Persis.

I suppose being dead since 1998 (her career died at least ten years earlier) doesn't help her much as a sex symbol, but it didn't really do Marylin Monroe any harm in that respect. Just froze Marylin in time, really. It could be argued Persis was already frozen in time in 1979, because that's still the way people remember her. Most of her obituaries ran with a 20-year-old bald headshot.

[boo boo]

Your wife is still quite brave to do it even once. And yeah coworkers can be jerks.

Originally Posted by baldy1138

Persis isn't as recognized as she once was, and that's a shame. In the 1980s and early 1990s, Persis was like the patron saint of acomophilia. She was a sexy bald woman who figured prominently in a major motion picture that came out at the dawn of home video. Since then, videos, both PG and porno, of female head shaving have become widely available online, and lots of celebrities have gone bald at one time or another. Plus, all the material, the photos, articles, etc., that people have gleaned from here and there over the years have spread across the web, sitting in photo galleries. When I was a teenager, there was Persis.

I suppose being dead since 1998 (her career died at least ten years earlier) doesn't help her much as a sex symbol, but it didn't really do Marylin Monroe any harm in that respect. Just froze Marylin in time, really. It could be argued Persis was already frozen in time in 1979, because that's still the way people remember her. Most of her obituaries ran with a 20-year-old bald headshot.

Well Persis IS a sex icon for a lot of acomophiliacs I imagine. She's the first well known actress I can think of to sport the look. She's more of a cult favorite though, back then the media didn't have much use for ethnic sex symbols let alone bald ones.

The most well known actresses to sport the buzzed or shaved look are Natalie Portman, Sigourney Weaver, and Demi Moore and Demi was the only one to go all the way. Natalie has done the most I think to promote the idea that yeah bald women can be gorgeous. But then Britney had to ruin everything and now the media treats female headshaving like it's clear a sign of mental illness.

They freak out so much about girls going bald or buzzed that you don't even have to do it, even the idea is threatening to people. Tabloids made a big deal about Cameron Diaz going bald even though she didn't. Actresses of high caliber like Emma Thompson, Joan Chen and Cate Blanchett have done it in dedication to their roles but Diaz wouldn't dare demean herself for a mere movie role, noooooooooooo, she clearly doesn't take the art seriously enough to care that her bald cap looked absolutely ridiculous and unconvincing.

The girl who played her daughter in the movie actually shaved her head completely bald and her eyebrows too. But she didn't get the props for her bravery at all, all people cared about was some washed up actress in a bald cap.

F*ck the media maaaaaaaaaaaan.

[baldy1138]

Originally Posted by boo boo

Well Persis IS a sex icon for a lot of acomophiliacs Tabloids made a big deal about Cameron Diaz going bald even though she didn't. Actresses of high calibur like Emma Thompson, Joan Chen and Cate Blanchett have done it in dedication to their roles but Diaz wouldn't dare demean herself for a mere movie role, noooooooooooo, she clearly doesn't take the art seriously enough to care that her bald cap looked absolutely ridiculous and unconvincing. Still tabloids praised her for her "devotion", pfft.

The girl who played her daughter in the movie actually shaved her head completely and her eyebrows too. But she didn't get the props for her bravery at all, all people cared about was some washed up actress in a bald cap.

That was the most insane thing. I have a picture on my site from one of those "Cameron Diaz is Bald!" stories that used to be funny, but now just pisses me off. Everybody is going about their business, including the genuinely bald girl standing right next to her, and her eyes are locked on the camera, with a big, cheesy grin on her face. Look at me! It seems idiotic to make a fuss over someone in bad makeup when there is someone standing right next to her who did it for real. Even for somebody who doesn't go for bald heads, it should be obvious who did more for the movie, and who did nothing of any news value. Freaking celebrity worship. Crazy.

The worst part is, people look at pictures of Diaz, who looks like one of the Newcomers from Alien Nation minus the spots, and comment on how awful it looks. Of course it looks awful. She's got a big, bulbous latex thing stretched over her hair that bears no resemblance to any human head I've ever seen. I don't care for bald caps in general, but that is by far the worst such makeup job I can think of. Cameron hasn't done as much damage as Britney, but she's done her share.

[boo boo]

A lot of people stupidly think she actually did it. Tabloids and gossip sites were pretty damn harsh to her, saying she looked like Gollum and what not so in retrospect I'm glad she got all the attention instead of the girl (Sofia is here name) who did it for real, she's a kid but these days the media has no standards of decency.

Gossip websites are such trash, run by cruel and tasteless people. Not just to women who choose this look but any woman who dosen't fit their ideal body type to an exact T.

[baldy1138]

I thought the media was mostly to blame for turning the most harmless thing Britney did into evidence of a nervous breakdown. There aren't a lot of pictures of it, but she was smiling as she did it. To me, it looked like a liberating experience for her. It might well have been symbolic of her desire for a fresh start. That is not unheard of.

But then we got a lot of tabloid articles full of hearsay and speculation from various "sources," not to mention random fans giving their two cents' worth about how bad she looked. Then we got pictures of crazy bald Britney freaking out in public, which then became the default image in any story about her. I don't know that we ever got a genuine explanation from her of just what the shaved head was about. There was just this immediate sh*t storm in the media, after which I think she was advised to make a half-assed apology and put the whole thing behind her.

I am by no means defending anything else Britney did that was genuinely stupid, nor am I in any way a fan of anything she's done, but I think I'm a fair person, and I thought she got pretty badly smeared on the head shaving thing.

I've said it before, if it was someone with a reputation as a spiritual person, or with some credibility as an artist, people would not have been branding her insane. To me, it was far more significant that someone so tied to the most superficial feminine ideals would shave her head than it would have been if she was an artsy type more prone to experimenting with her image.

[Goblin Tears]

Originally Posted by baldy1138

I thought the media was mostly to blame for turning the most harmless thing Britney did into evidence of a nervous breakdown. There aren't a lot of pictures of it, but she was smiling as she did it. To me, it looked like a liberating experience for her. It might well have been symbolic of her desire for a fresh start. That is not unheard of.

But then we got a lot of tabloid articles full of hearsay and speculation from various "sources," not to mention random fans giving their two cents' worth about how bad she looked. Then we got pictures of crazy bald Britney freaking out in public, which then became the default image in any story about her. I don't know that we ever got a genuine explanation from her of just what the shaved head was about. There was just this immediate sh*t storm in the media, after which I think she was advised to make a half-assed apology and put the whole thing behind her.

I am by no means defending anything else Britney did that was genuinely stupid, nor am I in any way a fan of anything she's done, but I think I'm a fair person, and I thought she got pretty badly smeared on the head shaving thing.

I've said it before, if it was someone with a reputation as a spiritual person, or with some credibility as an artist, people would not have been branding her insane. To me, it was far more significant that someone so tied to the most superficial feminine ideals would shave her head than it would have been if she was an artsy type more prone to experimenting with her image.

The irony is that after shaving her head, she released her most experimental and acclaimed album to date, but of course this was mostly overlooked by the ravenous media. Although prior to the head shaving, the media had been targeting Britney because she was already on the downward spiral, selling more newspapers than albums thanks to her hedonistic 'expositions' with Paris Hilton and Lohan. So, when she did shave her head, she became a tabloid gold mine, and the persuit of Britney Spears became an essential for every tabloid under the sun.

And well said! Good post on Britters, if there ever was one (I'm a fan, in case you can't tell!)

[boo boo]

Originally Posted by baldy1138

I thought the media was mostly to blame for turning the most harmless thing Britney did into evidence of a nervous breakdown. There aren't a lot of pictures of it, but she was smiling as she did it. To me, it looked like a liberating experience for her. It might well have been symbolic of her desire for a fresh start. That is not unheard of.

But then we got a lot of tabloid articles full of hearsay and speculation from various "sources," not to mention random fans giving their two cents' worth about how bad she looked. Then we got pictures of crazy bald Britney freaking out in public, which then became the default image in any story about her. I don't know that we ever got a genuine explanation from her of just what the shaved head was about. There was just this immediate sh*t storm in the media, after which I think she was advised to make a half-assed apology and put the whole thing behind her.

I am by no means defending anything else Britney did that was genuinely stupid, nor am I in any way a fan of anything she's done, but I think I'm a fair person, and I thought she got pretty badly smeared on the head shaving thing.

I've said it before, if it was someone with a reputation as a spiritual person, or with some credibility as an artist, people would not have been branding her insane. To me, it was far more significant that someone so tied to the most superficial feminine ideals would shave her head than it would have been if she was an artsy type more prone to experimenting with her image.

True, people were a little weirded out when Sinead did it but they eventually accepted it and it became a trademark thing for her. And she was never a sex icon or anything.

Britney's selling point has never been her music or any kind of artistic statement, she was just a piece of meat, jailbait marketed towards horny teenage boys. I think she came to realise this soon enough and it's being caught on the media's web and not able to escape. When you're considered just a sex object the media feels it's acceptable to exagerate your flaws and tear them apart. She gains a little weight and she's morbidly obese.

I think she was making a simple statement, as in "FAP to this assh*les, you're not the boss of me" and the media took that as a personal insult. "Hey bitch we MADE you, you don't have the right to not be hot anymore."

She did look pretty bad when she shaved her head but not BECAUSE she shaved her head, she already looked bad being messed up on drugs. Her hair looked nasty and you know what? Shaving is a lot more healthy than the sh*t she's been doing to her head for years, bleaching, extensions, etc.

I'd imagine headshaving is healther than most of the things women (and men) do to their hair actually, as long as you know about the required skincare maintenance, moisterizer and sunscreen, wear hats when it's cold and don't mind an occasional nick or two.