The #metoo thread (sexual assault and/or misconduct discussion)

[OccultHawk]

I just don't see where the absolute assurance is coming from

Chemicals don’t make decisions

[Oriphiel]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Chemicals don’t make decisions

Decisions are chemicals

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by Oriphiel

Decisions are chemicals

Yes

Except decisions don’t exist. Only the illusion of decisions exist and yes that is indeed purely chemical

So you think if there are a finite set of actions but we are only free to choose which action to take instead of any action we want then we don't have free will?

Goddamn dude

How clear do I have to ****ing be? We don’t choose anything.

chemicals do however behave with entropy

Unless you think they control empathy that’s irrelevant

Then don't use them synonymously

I didn’t. Did you?

[DwnWthVwls]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Goddamn dude

How clear do I have to ****ing be? We don’t choose anything.

I'm just confused by this.. you believe our actions are determined based entirely on uncontrollable chemical interactions, but we have the capacity to add different chemicals into the equation.. So where does that fit into your ideology?

If I can add different chemicals into my body that I know will produce certain effects (even if I dont have direct will over the effects those chemical interactions produce), I still have no free will?

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I'm just confused by this.. you believe our actions are determined based entirely on uncontrollable chemical interactions, but we have the capacity to add different chemicals into the equation.. So where does that fit into your ideology?

If I can add different chemicals into my body that I know will produce certain effects (even if I dont have direct will over the effects those chemical interactions produce), I still have no free will?

Let’s be honest. If Frown can’t get this you’re certainly not going to.

You don’t have any control over anything at all. You don’t control your response to this. It is impossible for anyone to control anything.

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I'm just confused by this.. you believe our actions are determined based entirely on uncontrollable chemical interactions, but we have the capacity to add different chemicals into the equation.. So where does that fit into your ideology?

If I can add different chemicals into my body that I know will produce certain effects (even if I dont have direct will over the effects those chemical interactions produce), I still have no free will?

I think someone who fits the role of chemist would have to be a deity.

[Frownland]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Yes

Except decisions don’t exist. Only the illusion of decisions exist and yes that is indeed purely chemical



Goddamn dude

How clear do I have to ****ing be? We don’t choose anything.



Unless you think they control empathy that’s irrelevant



I didn’t. Did you?

Is "you" or "we" synonymous with the brain?

[DwnWthVwls]

Answer my question, fruitball.

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

words

So you think if there are a finite set of actions but we are only free to choose which action to take instead of any action we want then we don't have free will?

[DwnWthVwls]

Good answers and question dodge.. We've already established I don't have control over my actions because the chemicals do it all. So I'm asking what happens when someone manipulates the chemicals that do the decision making, and your answer is "your too dumb to understand my weak argument".

[Frownland]

That's how easy answers go.