Yes, because everybody knows stats make a quarterback better than another.

Yeah look at all the stats Romo has put up and passing records of Aikmans he's broken. Yet only 1 playoff win in how many years? I think Luck and RG3 are great QB's and will do great things in the NFL. Rg3 isn't that much better than Luck though imo.

I just think it's way to early to tell which one is "better". All I know is that we'll most likely be seeing Luck in the playoffs. The Redskins could make it but I doubt it. They're just not a balanced team with that defense playing the way it is.

RG3 is better...this year.

I would still beg to differ. Luck has like four or five comeback wins to go along with his stats. Has RG3 come from behind to lead his team to a victory? That's not rhetorical I actually don't know.

I think RG3's biggest concern is whether he can stay healthy every year. Of course that's not guaranteed to anyone but I think in his case its even more of an issue. The dude is a competitor and wants to win, but at what point are you compromising not only your well being but the team that depends on you too. Questions that I'm sure have been raised and brought to his attention.

At the same time, RG3's stats are really inflated due to the type of offense he's in. It's kind of a gimmick offense full of options and short passes and the QB numbers shouldn't be looked at the same as under a more traditional offense. He does get off some long bombs to open receivers, but most of his passes are really short and he really relies on YAC a lot from his receivers. I think he's been WAY more sheltered than Luck, and he's getting much better support from the players around him. It's been a baptism by fire for Luck, and he's handled it very well.

It's kind of a toss-up for me about their performance this year, but I'd take Luck moving forward without batting an eye.

The conventional wisdom usually dictates you go with a strong armed pocket passer with a great ability to read defenses and make the adjustments. Luck is everything you could want in that type of passer. I think RG3 does have a gimmicky offense and his ability to run could cause him problems ala Vick if he doesn;t start taking the slide more often.

Personally I'd take either, but Luck is clearly the better overall quarterback in the long run if you're thinking conventional and looking for someone to be the face of your franchise for years to come. RG3 would scare me as a Redskins fan going forward because of his potential to have a career ending injury due to his careless running ability. Both are outstanding qb's but there is a reason all the pundits and owners/coaches agreed that Luck was the greatest qb prospect since Elway.

And it's not like Luck isn't a good athlete himself. He's got a lot of running ability himself. Nowhere near RG3's, but he can still get a lot done with his feet.

I tend to think his line is a little bit less refined at the moment also. And RG3 is getting a breakout year from Morris also to help carry the load. Luck is a tremendous athlete and he certainly can extend plays and get around the edge if need be.

How is it a gimmick offense? Is it conventional? Probably not, but they have been putting up points all year. By the way, RG3 is a better passer than Vick (save maybe his 1st season in Philly). I think the comparison to Vick is pretty unfair, some guys have what it takes and others don't.

your saying rg3 has what it takes before he's been in the post season?

I don't know, all I know is I prefer him to Luck judging from what I've seen.

Only time will tell, hell they are both still rookies. They may both flop and be the second coming of jamarcus Russel....

They have both already surpassed him easily.

Well, RG3 definitely is more efficient right now. I think Luck shows as much promise overall, but he takes more risks in his pass-happy system.

Man Im glad we came up with a win but all these games coming down to the 4rth quarter and overtime games are taking a toll.

That 60 yard throw by Ben Roethlisberger was amazing. Turnovers did the Steelers in.

Well I have to say that the Pats vs 9ers game tonight may have been the best game I've seen all season. Sucks Brady brought them back from 28 points down only for San Fran to score on the following possession in two plays. I was actually suprised how poorly the 9ers deffense played in the second half of the game. Changing up their whole scheme from press man coverage to a more soft zone type of play. Still to watch the play calling from Belechik and the execution of Brady and the offense was nothing short of genius. Even when Brady loses he loses in style, but I think raised some some eyebrows at how exzactly to expose the 9ers D. Kaeperscatch or whatever his name showed glimpses of veteran like play and then at times couldn't even handle the snap from under center. I'm still not sure about that QB change, but he did come away with the victory. I'm thinking the chances for a rematch in the super bowl between these two teams is very likely and has all the makings of another epic showdown.

Kaeperscratch isn't funny. You gotta realize how wet it was out there. Brady didn't fumble a snap because he's used to it. Kaep is not. Even with those fumbles, he only had one bad pass the entire game and threw four touchdown passes. The first touchdown to Crabtree was one of the best thrown balls I've seen all season by any QB. Without getting too into the hype that's surrounding Kaep, I think his play is way better than just some "veteran".

I love how Kaepernick is actually utilizing Crabtree now. The guy is way too talented and reliable to not be getting targeted over 10 times a game.

So, who's going to be the starting QB for the Jets next year? They may stick with Sanchez for another year due to how much money they have invested in him, but I don't know how they could justify that. Tebow definitely isn't the answer either.

I think it would be funny if they went after Vick seeing as how much they love drama. You'd have to think that's a pretty big long shot though.

Ultimately though, I think Alex Smith would be the best option. Just get someone in there that can be reliable and not turn the ball over every play. They're in no position to win now, but having some sense of reliability at the QB position couldn't hurt.

Alex would do great in NY...with a different coach.

I do realise that it was wet out there during that game. QB's deal with those conditions all year long, but its no excuse imo, and if he was the starting QB for Dallas I would say the same thing. Would you prefer Kaepersnatch? Just dont like the dude and really have no compelling reason why other than he snaked his way into the starting position. Yes I know it wasn't his decision, and he doesn't make the rules but I dont care. Maybe after some time I'll come around, but at the moment I'm just not sold on him. I do like the niners though and actually pull for them even though I'm a Cowboys fan. I like Crabtree and Moss and Davis. They're a well built well coached team, I just refuse to anoint Kaepcrack to be the chosen one just now. Who knows maybe he'll win the Super Bowl with a fourth quarter drive with only minutes remaing in all pro QB fashion. As of right now I'm not impressed and will reamin unimpressed until I'm shown something actually impressive.

You don't think throwing four touchdown passes in December against the patriots on the road while it's raining is impressive? Do you realize that the Patriots haven't been defeated at home in December since 2002? Do you realize it was KaepERNICK's 5th career start? Do you realize that Kaepernick has the highest QBR rating through his first five starts than anybody else since 2008? Do you realize that he has not one, but two 50 yard touchdown runs this season? Do you realize he has a standard quarterback rating of 104?

I'm all for having opinions on football players but at least realize what you're talking about.

I had no idea his stats were that outstanding. I think Blooz has a thing for Alex Smith or something, honestly Smith hasn't impressed me since he was running the spread in Utah, dude is a monumental bust, so comparatively Kaepernick has been a real pleasant surprise for 9er's fans.

Run on sentence of the year. LOL

i don't like kaep's tattoo's he's trying to look all "thug", not the look you want the leader of your team having.

I'm hoping this is a joke due to that aol article that came out. I'm pretty sure it is. If it is not then let me say that his tattoos are of bible verses.

haha yeah im glad someone knew what i was referencing. It's too stupid of a criticism for anyone to take seriously, i hope

I love and miss Alex Smith. I've been a fan of his for a long time. I'd be happy to argue the "bust" point you made but I don't want too if it's just going to be me. To put it bluntly...I don't think Alex is any where near a bust and that for the past two years he's been one of the better quarterbacks in the league. I have my reasons.

I'm gullible.

I think you would have to take into context that he was a beast in Urban Meyers system and was projected as a big game qb and hes been anything but. There are tons of qbs that have come and gone who can manage games, Smith was supposed to be an All Pro QB. His 63 picks to 81 td's ratio makes me leery also.

He was a beast in Urban Meyer's system because a very well orchestrated spread system in college with a great offensive line is like taking candy from a baby. Alex got thrown into the fire when he was WAY too young and WAY too inexperienced in a pro style offense to succeed. Alex was drafted way too high. He's always going to have to live with the burden of being the overall pick in the draft even though he shouldn't have been. Those saying he was supposed to be an all pro quarterback were just flat out wrong. That shouldn't taint his credentials because of what he was supposed to be. You mentioned the TD interception ratio. I'll give you that. Keep in mind that his first two years produced 27 of those interceptions. Keep in mind that until Harbaugh came into the picture that the 49ers were perhaps besides the Browns the worst coached team in the league. Singletary didn't know what to do with a team and he hired coordinator after coordinator. Alex has had I think about 6 in his pro career. I can't name a starting QB that could succeed under those circumstances. These may sound like excuses but look at the last two years. Until Kaep started he had the best winning percentage out of any starting QB. That includes Brady and Rogers. Last year had six comeback victories so the notion that he only manages games is out the window. Look at the Saints game. Case and point.

I'm not calling Alex a great QB. I'm calling him a very good one and a top 20 starter in this league. He is in no way near a bust.

I was basing that merely on your one of the better qb's in the league statement. I'd give him top 20 in the league thats a fair point. I'd agree he somewhat had his hands tied playing in the Singletary system and hes been much better under Harbaugh. Harbaugh has a knack for instilling confidence in qb's at all levels. I'd say anyone drafted so high and coming in with such high standards and stats would certainly be a bust until proving otherwise. I certainly agree the last two years he has blossomed at reading defenses and has learn to run the offense at a much higher rate. I think we're on the same page with regard to his abilities and ranking. I merely stated he was bust because of the facts you detailed, hes certainly never gonna be mistaken for Mark Sanchez.

Your totally right man what the heck was I thinking? The guy has truly shown his resistance and poise and five games is plenty to crown him the best effing QB of all time. All hail Kaeperwack for MVP this year and lets write his place in history right now and put him in the hall of fame. Geez how did this guy even not get drafted ahead of Luck and RG3? They should be carrying his jock strap around for him or bringing him gatorade on the sidelines. This is an utter outrage and I for one am appalled by it, and am very disappointed in Jerry Jones for not noticing this kind of talent. I mean just think of how many games the Cowboys could have won with Krappersack at the helm? Possibly undefeated? It's just exausting to even think how unbelievably ignorant they were for letting a QB of this caliber slip through the cracks. I for one am now sold on him being the best thing since Manning, Bradshaw, Aikman, Elway, Montana, Brady, Marino, Brees and whoever else the media hypes as elite. Maybe we'll trade Demarcus Ware along with the rest of our squad of talent just to aquire this dude cause his athletic ability is apparently unparalleled to that of anyone ever. Forget Deon Sanders or Bo Jackson, since this guy was going to be a pitcher in college and chose the NFL instead I'm sure the rest of the MLB scene breathed a sigh of relief. The competition he would have brought to the table would have been to much and probaly would have been given the MVP in that league to after only 5 games. The Lakers are having trouble also maybe he could turn things around in LA? If the Cowboys get him in a trade he can just throw the ball to himself and do special teams, and deffense as well. Should be fun to watch.

QFT :yeah:

Its official....I've got......KAEPERSCRATCH FEVER.....DUH DUH DUH DUN!!!! I wish just once they would play this for Kaepersnatch when he comes on the field.

omg can we stop talking about Alex Smithzzzzzzzzzz

is mark sanchez a starting qb next year?

I would like you to point out where I said kaepernick was an all pro quarterback. You said yourself that you had no reason not to like him but that you just don't. You gave zero reasons why you are unimpressed with him and I have you five on why you should be impressed with him. I look forward to your next knowledge filled thought out response.