Love or Hate?

**Frownland** · 06-12-2015, 10:11 AM

I think that Ege Bamyasi is a bit of a grower as well. The noodling gets less pointless the more you start to familiarize yourself with the music.

Also, I have a suggestion. Do you think that you can put the track names in your reviews? Not everyone remembers the tracklisting of an album and while it's not a massive hassle to google it when reading one of your reviews, I think it'd help. It's your thing so do as you please though.

Machine · 06-12-2015, 10:32 AM

Well I'm glad I went with Ege Bamyasi rather than their other stuff because imo this is their most accessible. The "formless noodling" is something you have to get used to with them and then you'll sort of realize that that's not really what it is at all but instead some of the most well formed "improv" I've ever heard. Can is definately a grower if a band but their really not that hard to get into compared to other experimental bands I've heard in fact I would go as far to say that Can is extremely accessible.

grindy · 06-12-2015, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Machine

Well I'm glad I went with Ege Bamyasi rather than their other stuff because imo this is their most accessible. The "formless noodling" is something you have to get used to with them and then you'll sort of realize that that's not really what it is at all but instead some of the most well formed "improv" I've ever heard. Can is definately a grower if a band but their really not that hard to get into compared to other experimental bands I've heard in fact I would go as far to say that Can is extremely accessible.

Them being seemingly accessible was actually one of the reasons I couldn't get into them. Back then I listened almost exclusively to weird stuff and was somewhat snobbish about it, so I dismissed Can as okay, but nothing special and kinda boring.
But their songs, even the ones that seem like groovy, poppy easy listening, have a depth and a weird madness to them I've never encountered anywhere else.

Trollheart · 06-12-2015, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I think that Ege Bamyasi is a bit of a grower as well. The noodling gets less pointless the more you start to familiarize yourself with the music.

Also, I have a suggestion. Do you think that you can put the track names in your reviews? Not everyone remembers the tracklisting of an album and while it's not a massive hassle to google it when reading one of your reviews, I think it'd help. It's your thing so do as you please though.

Honestly? No. I'm having a hard enough time keeping this going as it is (hence the drop from two or sometimes three albums a day to only one) and some of these albums can have fifteen or more tracks. I have a matrix set up for this and frankly it really would be too much trouble to go typing in all the names, especially when some of them can be really long so it's really just too much hassle, sorry. Wiki exists for a reason. Sorry if that sounds snippy, but I just can't put any more work into this than I'm already doing, as I have let my journals slip and need to catch back up. Not to mention Metal Month III is now only a scant four months away!

Machine · 06-12-2015, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy

Them being seemingly accessible was actually one of the reasons I couldn't get into them. Back then I listened almost exclusively to weird stuff and was somewhat snobbish about it, so I dismissed Can as okay, but nothing special and kinda boring.
But their songs, even the ones that seem like groovy, poppy easy listening, have a depth and a weird madness to them I've never encountered anywhere else.

Agreed one hundred percent they were actually like one of the first bands I got into when I was a little kid they're music had a weirdness about it that no matter what I wasn't finding anywhere else, but the poppy stuff was also just childish enough to keep my young mind happy. Growing up I've focused in much more on the eccentric qualities of their music and it's why they're one of my favorite bands if all time.

Ninetales · 06-12-2015, 12:32 PM

oh dang Popol Vuh up next. if TH doesn't like it I might cry.

**Frownland** · 06-12-2015, 12:39 PM

For sure TH, just throwing it out there. I figured you'd be too lazy

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Originally Posted by Ninetales

oh dang Popol Vuh up next. if TH doesn't like it I might cry.

I know he likes ambient, but I'm worried about the outcome. It's a real nail biter.

Trollheart · 06-12-2015, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

For sure TH, just throwing it out there. I figured you'd be too lazy

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I know he likes ambient, but I'm worried about the outcome. It's a real nail biter.

Mondo Bungle · 06-12-2015, 03:08 PM

Copy/paste is brutal on the back

Trollheart · 06-12-2015, 05:49 PM

Title: In den garten pharaos
Artiste: Popul Vuh
Genre: Ambient
Familiarity: Zero

Track 1(Love) There are apparently only two tracks on this album, so I'll go into them in a little more depth than I normally do here. There's a very gentle, soft, almost organic feel to this in the first few minutes of the seventeen plus that it runs for. I'm kind of reminded of Gandalf a little, though his music does have a tendency to get a little wearing sometimes. This, so far, has kept my attention as it morphs into different sounds and themes as it goes. I like the tribal style drumming that comes in and then the kind of forest sounds. It's certainly very relaxing. Halfway through now and it doesn't seem like it at all.

The little bells or shimmers on the drums or whatever sound like tinkling rain, and then the drumming gets faster and more intense, and I think a keyboard is coming in now with wind sounds, birdsong, few other effects. And now we're twelve minutes in. Some beautiful, gentle Fender Rhodes sliding in with flutes, the percussion slowing and taking something of a backseat. This is just lovely. Sliding out now to its end and there's nothing of that I did not enjoy. Oh, and more than thirty seconds of water flowing. A perfect ending. On to track two.

Track 2(Love) Wow, this is different! A big church organ chord booming like something out of a catholic mass, with rippling, shimmering cymbals; very portentous. Actually sounded like bagpipes coming there about the second minute... probably not. This kind of reminds me of Bach and those grand, powerful concertos and fugues he would compose. Soft percussion coming in now, but more as a background than anything else, just kind of breaking up the organ sound, which I read is a medieval cathedral organ: certainly has that sound to it. You could imagine some one playing this in a European church in a prayer to ask God to save them from the Plague. Sounds like flute coming in now, this would be about the sixth minute.

The percussion is taking over a little bit now as we head into the ninth minute, the organ still droning away in the background like a benevolent grandparent watching the children play. This continues more or less up to minute fourteen, where the percussion drops almost completely away and the organ comes back to the fore, stamping its authority all over the piece. Oh, and now it's over. Well that was very pleasant.

End result: With only two tracks I guess I was either going to like it or not. I must say it was quite enlightening and very enjoyable.

So, Love or Hate? That would be Love, for sure

Chances of a full review: Again, 0/10 as I think I've said all I could say above.

06-12-2015, 10:11 AM	#671 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,548	I think that Ege Bamyasi is a bit of a grower as well. The noodling gets less pointless the more you start to familiarize yourself with the music. Also, I have a suggestion. Do you think that you can put the track names in your reviews? Not everyone remembers the tracklisting of an album and while it's not a massive hassle to google it when reading one of your reviews, I think it'd help. It's your thing so do as you please though. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

06-12-2015, 10:32 AM	#672 (permalink)
Machine moon lake inc. Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,125	Well I'm glad I went with Ege Bamyasi rather than their other stuff because imo this is their most accessible. The "formless noodling" is something you have to get used to with them and then you'll sort of realize that that's not really what it is at all but instead some of the most well formed "improv" I've ever heard. Can is definately a grower if a band but their really not that hard to get into compared to other experimental bands I've heard in fact I would go as far to say that Can is extremely accessible. __________________ boost my ego listen to me stroke my delay pedal ever wanted to hear death grips songs... but they're acoustic? me neither.

06-12-2015, 05:49 PM	#680 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,970	Title: In den garten pharaos Artiste: Popul Vuh Genre: Ambient Familiarity: Zero Track 1(Love) There are apparently only two tracks on this album, so I'll go into them in a little more depth than I normally do here. There's a very gentle, soft, almost organic feel to this in the first few minutes of the seventeen plus that it runs for. I'm kind of reminded of Gandalf a little, though his music does have a tendency to get a little wearing sometimes. This, so far, has kept my attention as it morphs into different sounds and themes as it goes. I like the tribal style drumming that comes in and then the kind of forest sounds. It's certainly very relaxing. Halfway through now and it doesn't seem like it at all. The little bells or shimmers on the drums or whatever sound like tinkling rain, and then the drumming gets faster and more intense, and I think a keyboard is coming in now with wind sounds, birdsong, few other effects. And now we're twelve minutes in. Some beautiful, gentle Fender Rhodes sliding in with flutes, the percussion slowing and taking something of a backseat. This is just lovely. Sliding out now to its end and there's nothing of that I did not enjoy. Oh, and more than thirty seconds of water flowing. A perfect ending. On to track two. Track 2(Love) Wow, this is different! A big church organ chord booming like something out of a catholic mass, with rippling, shimmering cymbals; very portentous. Actually sounded like bagpipes coming there about the second minute... probably not. This kind of reminds me of Bach and those grand, powerful concertos and fugues he would compose. Soft percussion coming in now, but more as a background than anything else, just kind of breaking up the organ sound, which I read is a medieval cathedral organ: certainly has that sound to it. You could imagine some one playing this in a European church in a prayer to ask God to save them from the Plague. Sounds like flute coming in now, this would be about the sixth minute. The percussion is taking over a little bit now as we head into the ninth minute, the organ still droning away in the background like a benevolent grandparent watching the children play. This continues more or less up to minute fourteen, where the percussion drops almost completely away and the organ comes back to the fore, stamping its authority all over the piece. Oh, and now it's over. Well that was very pleasant. End result: With only two tracks I guess I was either going to like it or not. I must say it was quite enlightening and very enjoyable. So, Love or Hate? That would be Love, for sure Chances of a full review: Again, 0/10 as I think I've said all I could say above. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

06-12-2015, 12:32 PM	#676 (permalink)
Ninetales Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: livin wild Posts: 2,179	oh dang Popol Vuh up next. if TH doesn't like it I might cry.